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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:43 pm    Post subject: "Writing ebuilds" by Ciaran McCreesh .. removed?? Reply with quote

Ciaran McCreesh had this wonderful guide on how to write ebuilds. It is by far the most clear and useful piece of documentation on the subject I've been able to find.

Unfortunately its gone now. The original link was http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm/

What is going on? Where did this pearl of wisdom go?

Update: 5 June
Good news, the 'writing ebuilds' document is back online.
Find it here: http://dev.gentoo.org/~plasmaroo/devmanual/
Thanks to Ciaran and (I presume) plasmaroo.

For those interested, Ciaran has a post about his observations and concerns here:
http://www.firedrop.org.uk/observations.html
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Portage & Programming to Gentoo Chat.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ciaranm was suspended for 60 days for abusive behavior.

More information will be available to devs and the general public in the near future; right now devrel is working on collecting permission from complaining parties to make their complaints public and bring some transparency.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why isn't it included in the developers docs? It would be much easier for people to find.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a work in progress (a very good one at that), on it's way to becoming part of the official docs..
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cshields wrote:
It was a work in progress (a very good one at that), on it's way to becoming part of the official docs..

Hope you have a copy in that case.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Genone wrote:
cshields wrote:
It was a work in progress (a very good one at that), on it's way to becoming part of the official docs..

Hope you have a copy in that case.


no :cry:
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

avenj wrote:
Ciaranm was suspended for 60 days for abusive behavior.

More information will be available to devs and the general public in the near future; right now devrel is working on collecting permission from complaining parties to make their complaints public and bring some transparency.

Uhm I won't go there because this isn't my business 8O.
Is this reason to pull usefull documentation? I'd appreciate it if someone has a copy for download... :?:
Even better, please please put it back on.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaai wrote:
avenj wrote:
Ciaranm was suspended for 60 days for abusive behavior.

More information will be available to devs and the general public in the near future; right now devrel is working on collecting permission from complaining parties to make their complaints public and bring some transparency.

Uhm I won't go there because this isn't my business 8O.
Is this reason to pull usefull documentation? I'd appreciate it if someone has a copy for download... :?:
Even better, please please put it back on.


Google cache is your friend.

*main page
*devmanual
*quickstart

[edit:]Sorry, much of the content is not cached after all.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaai wrote:
avenj wrote:
Ciaranm was suspended for 60 days for abusive behavior.

More information will be available to devs and the general public in the near future; right now devrel is working on collecting permission from complaining parties to make their complaints public and bring some transparency.

Uhm I won't go there because this isn't my business 8O.
Is this reason to pull usefull documentation? I'd appreciate it if someone has a copy for download... :?:
Even better, please please put it back on.

Ehm, ciaranm apparently wiped his homedir himself, see http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm/ (esp. the 'support groups' part).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaai wrote:
avenj wrote:
Ciaranm was suspended for 60 days for abusive behavior.

More information will be available to devs and the general public in the near future; right now devrel is working on collecting permission from complaining parties to make their complaints public and bring some transparency.

Uhm I won't go there because this isn't my business 8O.
Is this reason to pull usefull documentation? I'd appreciate it if someone has a copy for download... :?:
Even better, please please put it back on.


We didn't pull it. Get in touch with Ciaran and ask him for a copy if you want it, I certainly don't have a copy handy...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

avenj wrote:
We didn't pull it. Get in touch with Ciaran and ask him for a copy if you want it, I certainly don't have a copy handy...

Okay, thanks :wink:
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This sucks, Ciaranm was my favorite gentoo dev.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

petrjanda wrote:
This sucks, Ciaranm was my favorite gentoo dev.

that's right, his vim-guide was cool too. stranges things are going on on the gentoo developer base...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
This sucks, Ciaranm was my favorite gentoo dev.


His blog was very interesting, beautiful and with a touch of british humor (all french love).
The .vimrc and .bashrc are cool.

I don't know what teh heck he does, but please don't be too hard with him, Gentoo need him.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could do with having a read of this.

I suck at creating ebuilds, this guide sounds like a more simpler solution!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

petrjanda wrote:
This sucks, Ciaranm was my favorite gentoo dev.


+1 any way to know what happend? Maybe should we then, open a support thread!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enlight wrote:
+1 any way to know what happend? Maybe should we then, open a support thread!

avenj wrote:
More information will be available to devs and the general public in the near future; right now devrel is working on collecting permission from complaining parties to make their complaints public and bring some transparency.


Also, judging from ciaranms behaviour in the past I predict we will hear his side of the story soon and elaborately.

Lets just hope his work on the ebuilds etc doesn't get the same treatment as his devspace home. Would be a bummer.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nephros wrote:

Lets just hope his work on the ebuilds etc doesn't get the same treatment as his devspace home. Would be a bummer.

I think it will for the time being. Hes probably quite pissed off judging by his comment on his devspace home. I want to know what happend, can other devs tell us more???
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We miss Ciaran already... :cry:
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgive every sin of him,just because he is a vim expert. :)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He can be too 'my-way-or-the-highway'. Thats fine for one man shows like slack, but not gentoo

My $0.02? He'll fork or something stupid.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

petrjanda wrote:
nephros wrote:

Lets just hope his work on the ebuilds etc doesn't get the same treatment as his devspace home. Would be a bummer.

I think it will for the time being. Hes probably quite pissed off judging by his comment on his devspace home. I want to know what happend, can other devs tell us more???


Insulting other devs isn't cool, that's about the summary right there
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to know the forum rules apply to the higher ups too :P
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So this from planet.g.o is possibly somehow related.
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