Finally improved desktop responsivness

Lovechild · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 9:03 am Post subject:

http://www.minion.de/ <-- nVidia under kernel 2.5

Vagabond · Apprentice Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 192

That did the trick, got it up and running and I too have noticed a signifigant performance increase over 2.4.20-gentoo-r1. All I have to do is get sound working(looks like I'll have to use OSS) and I'm done.

Vag

Edit:

Got OSS running and working fine, now I'm having a problem compiling svgalib against the 2.5.64 kernel, is that normal?

maba · n00b Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 12 Location: Sweden

I have read some of the posts about these patches (linus+ingo combo) on kerneltrap, and if it's even half as good as it sounds then I'll be more than happy.

So I'm gonna build kernel 2.5.64 patched with bk9 now. If I get my bttv card, the nvidia card and my crappy intel8x0 integrated soundcard working (using alsa from the kernel), then I'll never look back at 2.4.x again. :lol:

EDIT: The kernel.org mainpage says that the latest snapshot for the beta kernel is 2.5.64-bk9.... However, there exist no such file, latest one is bk8.. Wonder if someone's been drinking too much? :oops:

zypher · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 1:30 pm Post subject:

Actually it's bk10.
/me 's gone testing...
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Lovechild · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 1:39 pm Post subject:

maba · n00b Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 12 Location: Sweden

Ari Rahikkala · Guru Joined: 02 Oct 2002 Posts: 370 Location: Finland

Evangelion · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:38 pm Post subject:

Lovechild · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 2:39 pm Post subject:

I should put:

"PM me for tech support and DIE"

in my sig.. I have half my inbox' filled with tech support requests.

maba · n00b Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 12 Location: Sweden

I'm running 2.5.64-bk10 now, can't say that I notice so much difference, but I think the most difference will show under some heavy load. Anyway, it runs fine.

Now, if only I could figure out how to make bttv work...

Ari Rahikkala · Guru Joined: 02 Oct 2002 Posts: 370 Location: Finland

Lovechild, don't worry - I know it's much more effective to post on a public forum asking for a specific person's help, thus letting peer pressure do its work, than to send a PM which can just be ignored (you can, for example, claim to have lost in the masses of requests). So I won't be PMing you any time soon

.

(j/k... I have a strong aversion to asking people tech support questions directly... I would usually rather take several hours to figure things out myself than spend other people's time. And even if I do ask questions, they're generally hidden in the midst of long rambles

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zypher · Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 3:58 pm Post subject:

Ok, got 2.5.64-bk10 working.

NVdriver: works. (compiled with applied patches mentioned above)

Alsa: (snd-cs46xx) works.
xmms sounds quite good, quake3 (snd-pcm-oss) is awful. It stutters and hisses...

Bttv: works.
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popopo_ · n00b Joined: 15 Mar 2003 Posts: 21

Anyone knows if there's a way to make the nforce2 integrated network adapter work with the 2.5.X kernel ?

I have a leadtek card, so no 3com ethernet integrated.

maba · n00b Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 12 Location: Sweden

To the people talking about patching nvidia-kernel for use with linux 2.5: It seems to me there's no need to. nvidia-kernel-1.0.3123-r2 and nvidia-kernel-1.0.4191-r2 get patched with those patches by portage. And if you don't believe me, just look in the ebuilds.

Swishy · Guru Joined: 06 Jun 2002 Posts: 491 Location: NZ

zypher · Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 10:09 am Post subject:

Wow, compliments to the developers, I didn't even think about it.
BTW: Am I the only one who had to edit /sbin/modules-update not to delete /etc/modprobe.conf?
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Lowspirit · Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 1:55 pm Post subject:

NPTL compiled in again. The segfaults was cause xmms and mplayer was compiled with opengl support and with glx not working with NPTL they decided to segfault. Recompiled them with -opengl and works like a charm.

The high number of bk releases is cause the lingo (linus+ingo combo) interactivity patch spawned so much interest in the devkernel among users that previously never had run it, thus alot of new bug reports to sort through and fix.

Also, hopefully a big batch of the less extreme patches from the mm tree will get into .65 cause some of them just makes sense (I stripped the extreme RAM usage patch and the lingo patch and the mm tree still showed tendencies to outperform vanilla dev kernel).

Update: bk11 !? C'mon you got to be kidding me... starting to think they're doing this just to see how many we can take before we riot.
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Lovechild · Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 2:23 pm Post subject:

At least they are making progress... I can live with it as long as 2.5.65 will get out of the door in as good a state as possible (and it's really shaping up now... man does 2.5 rock)

Lovechild · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:15 pm Post subject:

Just an update on the mangled X startup. I've been compiling kernels nonstop and finally found the changeset that causes the problem

cset-1.068.1.17-to-1.1154.txt.gz

I mailed Andrew Morton with the result of this and lets hope someone fixes the problem soon - because I'm not enough of a kernel hacker to look over the rather massive changes that have gotten in with that changeset (even the diff between this and the previous changeset is huge).

Go go gadget kernel hacker bribing..

Lowspirit · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:08 am Post subject:

2.5.65 is out, the wait for those that didn't fiddle with bk releases (like myself) is finally over. Give it a whirl, it's not magical but some do find the difference overall to be very noticable.

I'm gonna go install it now myself to see what all the fuzz was about :wink:

Update:
Installed, runs just fine. Makes mplayer movies skip during background load though for some reason (2.5.64 did not), xine still works OK though. The "make gconfig" GTK2 interface made me happy too (is it new or have I just completely missed it in previous releases?), overall a nice kernel well worth a biscuit or two.
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nerdbert · l33t Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 981 Location: Berlin

just compiled 2.5.65... nothing special to mention here.

Ive got the feeling that the patched 2.5.64 kernel offered a little more responsiveness than the new one.
does anybody know how the kernel developers integrated the ingo-linus patch?
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