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PARENA Guru
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 349
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 3:01 pm Post subject: Galeon is my new God |
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The functionality and quality of Mozilla with the responsiveness of GTK. For anyone who hasn't tried it yet (I'm using the 'old' Galeon 1.2.7-r1 based on Mozilla 1.2.1) I advise you to do so. It's hard to explain, it's just simply great. |
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max_colby Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 30 Nov 2002 Posts: 149 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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I agree! I've moved from Phoenix to Galeon 1.3.3 (The latest Gtk2 development release) and it's been working wonderfully. |
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noff Guru
Joined: 11 Nov 2002 Posts: 388 Location: College Park, Maryland
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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What makes it better than Phoenix (let the flame wars begin)? I run Phoenix and I'm curious as to whether I shuld try it. Oh I'm running KDE but I have most GTK libs installed. _________________ What Larry was saying is that if you make it too easy for programmers, then poor programmers will be able to do things best left to good programmers, and will inevitably do them poorly. Everyone will suffer in the long term as a result." - Tom Chance |
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Vancouverite Apprentice
Joined: 28 Sep 2002 Posts: 162 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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noff wrote: | What makes it better than Phoenix (let the flame wars begin)? |
Or Skipstone? |
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dylix Apprentice
Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 261 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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galeon is excellent!!! _________________
https://dylix.org/
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ebrostig Bodhisattva
Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 3152 Location: Orlando, Fl
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with noff...
Could any of you die-hard fans of galeon enlighten us infidels with what is so great about it?
(Please be specific, I can live without comments like: It r0cks, excellent etc, give us an evaluation about what it does better than Phoenix or Konquere or Opera etc)
Erik _________________ 'Yes, Firefox is indeed greater than women. Can women block pops up for you? No. Can Firefox show you naked women? Yes.' |
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PARENA Guru
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 349
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Vancouverite wrote: | noff wrote: | What makes it better than Phoenix (let the flame wars begin)? |
Or Skipstone? |
Fist of all, nobody said it was better than Skipstone. I haven't used Skipstone, so I can't tell you how I feel about it. Actually, I've never even heard of Skipstone.
As far as Phoenix concerns: for me personally, Phoenix doesn't have enough functionality (yet). Galeon is a 'finished' product. Light, yet with excellent features: great bookmarking possibilities, Bookmarklets (good stuff), Autoreload (like in Opera), excellent tabbing possibilities (better than Mozilla, for me personally) and much more, it's all simply great.
Let me tell you again that this is my personal opinion. Phoenix can't satisfy me at all. Mozilla comes close and Galeon comes closest of them all. Galeon is my new God. |
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Ralphus Maximus Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 22 Jul 2002 Posts: 148 Location: At Large
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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I like Galeon better because it seems to work better than the others. I've tried Opera, Mozilla, Konqourer, and they all have had problems with java menus and flash animations. The web site I use to test is World Wrestling Entertainment. I've not been able to get their menus to work properly under the others, but Galeon does a fine job rendering their pages.
It's very possible I don't have something configured correctly, but when I "emerge <browser>", Galeon is the only one to work out of the box.
Cheers,
RM _________________ Hero for hire. Dragons rescued, Virgins slain.
You say "Cheesy" like it's a bad thing!
In a society that is drug infested, violence-wracked and polluted by chemical greed, no one has ever died from an overdose of pornography. |
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ebrostig Bodhisattva
Joined: 20 Jul 2002 Posts: 3152 Location: Orlando, Fl
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Ralphus Maximus wrote: | I like Galeon better because it seems to work better than the others. I've tried Opera, Mozilla, Konqourer, and they all have had problems with java menus and flash animations. The web site I use to test is World Wrestling Entertainment. I've not been able to get their menus to work properly under the others, but Galeon does a fine job rendering their pages.
It's very possible I don't have something configured correctly, but when I "emerge <browser>", Galeon is the only one to work out of the box.
Cheers,
RM |
Hmmm.. I just went to that site with Phoenix and all the menus were working fine. What was the problem you had with the menus?
Erik _________________ 'Yes, Firefox is indeed greater than women. Can women block pops up for you? No. Can Firefox show you naked women? Yes.' |
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mynameisjonas n00b
Joined: 04 Aug 2002 Posts: 25 Location: Wales, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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I used to love Galeon, indeed i thought it was the best browser I had used on any platform. I loved the 'completeness' of it, nifty tricks with tabbed browsing, the way bookmarks are handled, the speed + UI until this bug hit and it made browsing hell.
Then phoenix took off and I haven't looked back since! If however that issue has been fixed, I would whole-heartedly recommend it for those who haven't tried it. |
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Ralphus Maximus Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 22 Jul 2002 Posts: 148 Location: At Large
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Hmmm.. I just went to that site with Phoenix and all the menus were working fine. What was the problem you had with the menus? |
I haven't tried Phoenix. The problem with Opera, Moz and Konq is the menus won't work. When hovering I get a or something like that.
I use Opera on my win2k desktop at work and it all works fine.
I'll try Phoenix and see how it does.
Cheers,
RM _________________ Hero for hire. Dragons rescued, Virgins slain.
You say "Cheesy" like it's a bad thing!
In a society that is drug infested, violence-wracked and polluted by chemical greed, no one has ever died from an overdose of pornography. |
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max_colby Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 30 Nov 2002 Posts: 149 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 1:06 am Post subject: |
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ebrostig wrote: | I agree with noff...
Could any of you die-hard fans of galeon enlighten us infidels with what is so great about it?
(Please be specific, I can live without comments like: It r0cks, excellent etc, give us an evaluation about what it does better than Phoenix or Konquere or Opera etc)
Erik |
It uses Gtk2 so it integrates nicely with my Gnome Desktop. As trivial as it sounds that's probably the main reason I use it. Sure, it's lightweight and quick, but all the major browsers available for Linux are quite good in my opinion. Gecko is actively worked on, as is Khtml, providing a solid core for a number of browsers - users are then able to choose the UI that best suits them.
Feature wise, Galeon is like a Gnome2 version of Phoenix - but a little more polished (Phoenix is still very new)
Off topic: I really like Epiphany's method of storing bookmarks. I hope the browser becomes usable soon. |
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allucid Veteran
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1314 Location: atlanta
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 1:54 am Post subject: |
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my main concern right now is to find a browser that opens quickly (on my p3 800mhz 256mb ram). i tried phoenix which wasn't very quick, konqueror is kind of ruled out because i have fluxbox and i don't want to emerge half of kde if i don't have to, maybe i'll give galeon a try. |
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Empty_One n00b
Joined: 18 Oct 2002 Posts: 32
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:06 am Post subject: |
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I like it better for a few reasons. It came out before phoenix, so I have been using it for alot longer, and the second problem may be a setting problem, but I've never been able to fix it. In galeon, if I left click on a link, and the link would normally open a new window (like the links in this forum, I have galeon set to open it up in a tab beneath the current window. I have not been able to do that with mozilla or phoenix. Yes, middle click works, but 99.9% of my clicking is done with the left mouse button, so I find this the easiest.
When I have to use windows at work however, I do use phoenix. _________________ "Barney sucks! Best Buy sucks! Sony Sucks! Microsoft sucks, Bill Gates is the anti-Christ and John Ashcroft can kiss my ass!" Wil Wheaton |
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kompugeek n00b
Joined: 06 Mar 2003 Posts: 11 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | "Barney sucks! Best Buy sucks! Sony Sucks! Microsoft sucks, Bill Gates is the anti-Christ and John Ashcroft can kiss my ass!" Wil Wheaton |
Lmao! I like your signature dude! _________________ Visit here to get YOUR Linux box counted and get a coool little gif like mine |
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zephyr1256 Apprentice
Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 170 Location: Kingsport, TN
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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I like Opera. I also have mozilla installed now but I don't use it. I installed it because previously(in my old distro) there were certain sites that didn't work correctly in opera that I had to use mozilla for. Now everything seems to work with Opera, so I think I will unmerge mozilla soon.
A few things I really like about Opera:
-Opera has a mode where all your windows open open in one container for Opera, with a nice pager bar for the windows separate from your X pagers/screens. I find this very convenient.
-More generally, Opera is very customizable, and I love the mouseclick combinations that can be mapped to common browser operations(it also has options for mouse jestures to do things, but I don't enable that because I find it too easy to accidentally do them).
-If Opera is unexpectedly shut down(crash, power outage, etc.), when you go to start opera again, you have the option to continue browsing whereever you were, including all the windows that were open at the time.
-Opera is a very fast browser compared to Mozilla or Netscape(also IE, not that that is really an option, but just as a comparison), for me. |
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Lovechild Advocate
Joined: 17 May 2002 Posts: 2858 Location: Århus, Denmark
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Galeon rocks my world.. |
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Evangelion Veteran
Joined: 31 May 2002 Posts: 1087 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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zephyr1256 wrote: | -Opera has a mode where all your windows open open in one container for Opera, with a nice pager bar for the windows separate from your X pagers/screens. I find this very convenient. |
Mozilla, Phoenix and Konqueror has that too. In their case, they are known as "Tabs" _________________ My tech-blog | My other blog |
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H-Pi Apprentice
Joined: 26 Jun 2002 Posts: 175 Location: Delft (NL)
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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one feature I only see in galeon is clicking with your middle button on bookmarks to open them in new tabs, so you don't have to open a new tab first, very usefull
and Ilike to have everything gtk+
with phoenix I encountered some problems with fonts, which could be hacked with some .js file, but I don't want to go hack a bunch of files just to work a bit normal, don't know if phoenix works that way |
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PARENA Guru
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 349
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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H-Pi wrote: | one feature I only see in galeon is clicking with your middle button on bookmarks to open them in new tabs, so you don't have to open a new tab first, very usefull
and Ilike to have everything gtk+ |
Mozilla has that as well. (Preferences -> Tabbed Browsing -> Middle Click blabla or something) |
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H-Pi Apprentice
Joined: 26 Jun 2002 Posts: 175 Location: Delft (NL)
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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PARENA wrote: |
Mozilla has that as well. (Preferences -> Tabbed Browsing -> Middle Click blabla or something) |
no that's not what I mean, I mean really on bookmarks in the bookmark menu, mozilla can't do that |
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PARENA Guru
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, misread your post |
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Jimbow Guru
Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Posts: 597 Location: Silver City, NM
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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I just did an "emerge -up galeon" and the first dependency I got was: Code: |
[ebuild N ] net-www/mozilla-1.2.1-r5
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Do I really need to install mozilla in order to install galeon? |
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Schmolch l33t
Joined: 16 Jun 2002 Posts: 746 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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@allucid
Look at this option for galeon:
bash-2.05b$ galeon --help
Usage: galeon-bin [OPTION...]
-s, --server Don't open any windows; instead act
as a server for quick startup of new
Galeon instances
Should give you a startup time of <2 seconds
@ Jimbow
Yes cause its using the gecko-engine |
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H-Pi Apprentice
Joined: 26 Jun 2002 Posts: 175 Location: Delft (NL)
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2003 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Jimbow wrote: | I just did an "emerge -up galeon" and the first dependency I got was: Code: |
[ebuild N ] net-www/mozilla-1.2.1-r5
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Do I really need to install mozilla in order to install galeon? |
yes, galeon uses the rendering engine of mozilla (gecko)
you could try galeon 1.2.7 with moz 1.2.1 (stable)
or galeon-cvs with mozilla 1.3 (in the unstable tree), then you must comppile moz with gtk2 support (USE="gtk2")
galeon-cvs is 1.3.3, pretty stable right now, the main reason it isn't released is that gtk2 support for mozilla isn't completed
the only weird thing I see with galeon is that the acrobat reader plugin keeps reloading pdf files so I can't read them |
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