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Gherald Veteran
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 1399 Location: CLUAConsole
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:32 am Post subject: |
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fallow wrote: | main goal is to resign from reiserfs/reiser4 for another fs |
Quit lumping the two together! reiserfs is great. reiser4 is very different and still needs a lot of work. |
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fallow Bodhisattva
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2208 Location: Poland
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Gherald wrote: | fallow wrote: | main goal is to resign from reiserfs/reiser4 for another fs |
Quit lumping the two together! reiserfs is great. reiser4 is very different and still needs a lot of work. |
yes is great in pure fs speed with tons of small files .
ISNT great for interactivity and latencies.
high cpu usage and bad/longer latencies are the same attribute of both.
main love goal is to decrese latencies and increse interactivity from this aspect both are not so good.
of course reiser4 worst than reiserfs.
dont like the idea ?
there are many other patchsets supporting reiser4 and liking reiserfs
cheers. _________________ "Time is a companion that goes with us on a journey. It reminds us to cherish each moment, because it will never come again. What we leave behind is not as important as how we have lived" J-L. Picard |
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playfool l33t
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 688 Location: Ã
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Gherald wrote: | fallow wrote: | main goal is to resign from reiserfs/reiser4 for another fs |
Quit lumping the two together! reiserfs is great. reiser4 is very different and still needs a lot of work. |
For the interactivity problem pov, they are exactly the same - not the mention the fact that a number of disturbing stalls have been reported on lkml for ReiserFS.. Sorry but I can't in good conscience recommend anyone either one. |
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DrWoland l33t
Joined: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 603
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Fallow:
Here it is:
http://www.drwoland.com/love.jpg
Hope you like it _________________ I'm not a Guru, I just ask a lot of questions. |
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gringo Advocate
Joined: 27 Apr 2003 Posts: 3793
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | about this swap_scheduling . I tested it but I found some interactivity problems . I even see this by "clear eye" , similar results for U ? |
didnt tried this patch here (yet), but will let you know asap. In what scenario do you have problems ?
Quote: | about multiprocessor fixes , hm . I'll take a look maybe as additional patch first ? |
would be great
cheers _________________ Error: Failing not supported by current locale |
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vipernicus Veteran
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1462 Location: Your College IT Dept.
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chrisyu Apprentice
Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 207 Location: China
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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fallow wrote: |
chrisyu wrote: | Could LIRC patch be added in new love-sources?
That would be nice!
Thanks. |
and You have some working version ? this is first request for it :p
I had it in vivid-sources and some my previous love ,but this is not good to maintaining .
really is only kernel-space solution for it , any user-space solution ?
ad additional patch also maybe If You have some tested one
cheers. |
I am using 2.6.12-rc2-love1 now, and lirc works for me.
Couldn't find patch for rc3 though. |
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gimpel Advocate
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 2720 Location: Munich, Bavaria
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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test this one: http://gimpel.ath.cx/~tom/lirc-0.7.1pre4_for_2612rc3love1.diff
i test-compiled everything as module, no probs. and a guy from german channel is happy with it too
still i completely agree that things like that should be kept in userspace, same as automounting etc etc
has nothing to do in kernel somehow as it is a pure user tool _________________ http://proaudio.tuxfamily.org/wiki - pro-audio software overlay
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chrisyu Apprentice
Joined: 10 Apr 2003 Posts: 207 Location: China
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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gimpel wrote: | test this one: http://gimpel.ath.cx/~tom/lirc-0.7.1pre4_for_2612rc3love1.diff
i test-compiled everything as module, no probs. and a guy from german channel is happy with it too
still i completely agree that things like that should be kept in userspace, same as automounting etc etc
has nothing to do in kernel somehow as it is a pure user tool |
Yes, this works!
Thank you, gimpel. |
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gimpel Advocate
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 2720 Location: Munich, Bavaria
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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chrisyu wrote: | gimpel wrote: | test this one: http://gimpel.ath.cx/~tom/lirc-0.7.1pre4_for_2612rc3love1.diff
i test-compiled everything as module, no probs. and a guy from german channel is happy with it too
still i completely agree that things like that should be kept in userspace, same as automounting etc etc
has nothing to do in kernel somehow as it is a pure user tool |
Yes, this works!
Thank you, gimpel. | nice
/me forwards your "thanks" to peter and his -cko broken-out seems he did good work on it! (the lirc-config2 patch that is) _________________ http://proaudio.tuxfamily.org/wiki - pro-audio software overlay
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DrWoland l33t
Joined: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 603
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Fallow, you should just include all the logos with the kernel by default. It won't increase the download size that much, and it IS all about choice isn't it? _________________ I'm not a Guru, I just ask a lot of questions. |
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ilikelinux n00b
Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 50
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Has anyone been able to get the Ati drivers to work? when I try to install the ati drivers, it fails when compiling the drm module. |
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vipernicus Veteran
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1462 Location: Your College IT Dept.
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Fallow,
What will you include in -rc4? Just curious, really liking the desktop IngoSched. Out of the 3 IngoSched options, are any of them the default scheduler for the vanilla 2.6.12 series? Also, what do you think about Staircase 11.1? _________________ Viper-Sources Maintainer || nesl247 Projects || vipernicus.org blog |
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WaVeX Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 15 Mar 2004 Posts: 102 Location: USA, Michigan or Ohio
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Is there a way I take the love-sources and patch it to a vanilla kernel without going through mm? |
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gimpel Advocate
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 2720 Location: Munich, Bavaria
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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WaVeX wrote: | Is there a way I take the love-sources and patch it to a vanilla kernel without going through mm? |
who ever said it's applied on top of -mm o_O
the base is 2.6.12-rc3 vanilla _________________ http://proaudio.tuxfamily.org/wiki - pro-audio software overlay
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playfool l33t
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 688 Location: Ã
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 7:37 am Post subject: |
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WaVeX wrote: | Is there a way I take the love-sources and patch it to a vanilla kernel without going through mm? |
Love-sources are not based on mm nor does it include other ricer shit anymore, I applaud Lovechild and fallow for the effort, this kernel is very high quality |
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Momo_CCCP Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 26 Oct 2004 Posts: 141
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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playfool wrote: | I applaud Lovechild and fallow for the effort, this kernel is very high quality |
I second that, latest love-sources are working splendidly well here. The only thing I miss from my -cko days is the 1Gb Lowmem patch although I guess the speed boost is more psychological than anything . _________________ Momo_CCCP |
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Husky Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 77
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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is it realy so much work to integrate the reiser4 patches?
would it be enaugh to tell the users to don't use it if they wan't a responsiv kernel and don't give support for errors with reiser4 enabled? |
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vipernicus Veteran
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1462 Location: Your College IT Dept.
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Husky wrote: | is it realy so much work to integrate the reiser4 patches?
would it be enaugh to tell the users to don't use it if they wan't a responsiv kernel and don't give support for errors with reiser4 enabled? |
Did you know that you have the ability to patch reiser4 support into any kernel all by yourself. _________________ Viper-Sources Maintainer || nesl247 Projects || vipernicus.org blog |
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Husky Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 77
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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yes, i know. but befor i do this every kernel release i tought it would be a great idea to ask if someone else(how has to patch the kernel anyway) could do this for me .
the question is: do you not put raiser4 in the kernel because you don't like it and you think it doens't work good on an desktop - or does it realy improve the kernel(eg because it saves you much time)? |
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Chaosite Guru
Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 540 Location: Right over here.
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Husky wrote: | yes, i know. but befor i do this every kernel release i tought it would be a great idea to ask if someone else(how has to patch the kernel anyway) could do this for me .
the question is: do you not put raiser4 in the kernel because you don't like it and you think it doens't work good on an desktop - or does it realy improve the kernel(eg because it saves you much time)? |
Things that are bad about Reiser4:
1. Its buggy.
2. Its bad for latency - against love-sources goal.
3. Did I mention that its buggy?
4. It needs stuff from -mm, which means it changes the kernel in non-trivial ways that could make a difference even if reiser4 is disabled from kernel config.
5. Oh yeah - its buggy. |
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ilikelinux n00b
Joined: 19 Dec 2003 Posts: 50
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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And if you really want reiser4 you can allways apply the reiser4 patches your self.. |
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MrApples Guru
Joined: 13 Dec 2002 Posts: 511
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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im getting hardlocks everytime i start x
4k stacks are disabled, ive tried using kernel agp and nvidia agp, turned off renderaccel
still no luck
im using the latest nvidia-kernel from portage, any ideas? _________________ http://www.whatsinyourbox.org -- Technology discussion, news, and more. |
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Husky Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 77
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Chaosite wrote: | Husky wrote: | yes, i know. but befor i do this every kernel release i tought it would be a great idea to ask if someone else(how has to patch the kernel anyway) could do this for me .
the question is: do you not put raiser4 in the kernel because you don't like it and you think it doens't work good on an desktop - or does it realy improve the kernel(eg because it saves you much time)? |
Things that are bad about Reiser4:
1. Its buggy.
2. Its bad for latency - against love-sources goal.
3. Did I mention that its buggy?
4. It needs stuff from -mm, which means it changes the kernel in non-trivial ways that could make a difference even if reiser4 is disabled from kernel config.
5. Oh yeah - its buggy. |
i think you didn't understand me. but thats maybe my fault . ok, the last try for today:
is the kernel better if you don't include the reiser4 patches in the sources, even if you disable reiser4 in your config? this question is not about how bad is reiser4.
my problem is i don't want to switch now. my reiser4 runs ok. its fast and i have no problems with it yet and i have no time and space to move all of my partitions... |
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vipernicus Veteran
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 1462 Location: Your College IT Dept.
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 2:53 am Post subject: |
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MrApples wrote: | im getting hardlocks everytime i start x
4k stacks are disabled, ive tried using kernel agp and nvidia agp, turned off renderaccel
still no luck
im using the latest nvidia-kernel from portage, any ideas? |
disable vesa completely, if that works, tell us _________________ Viper-Sources Maintainer || nesl247 Projects || vipernicus.org blog |
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