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Erlend
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| Quote: | | compiling from the beginning with pic would save a lot of time! |
Sorry, I think I must be missing something. How does using pic save a lot of time? Does it just speed up the prelink process? I've prelinked my system without USE="pic" and it seems okay (although i wouldn't say i noticed much speed up).
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hds
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| Erlend wrote: | I've prelinked my system without USE="pic" and it seems okay (although i wouldn't say i noticed much speed up).
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you shouldnt notice any speedup if glibc was compiled without pic 
what about reading the previous page?  |
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juri
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:33 am Post subject: |
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From what I understood if you have USE="pic" from the start, that is to say a stage1 install, you don't have to reemerge the entire system later to get all the advantages of prelinking. Maybe you didn't notice any improvement cause you don't have the pic flag enabled.
anyway I'm just guessing cause my first try at prelinking following the how-to on the official site failed. |
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hds
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| juri wrote: | | From what I understood if you have USE="pic" from the start, that is to say a stage1 install, you don't have to reemerge the entire system |
well, you have to re-emerge glibc at least, not the entire system, though |
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Erlend
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | you shouldnt notice any speedup if glibc was compiled without pic Wink
what about reading the previous page? Embarassed |
Great, now I've got to re-compile glibc, again.
I read the previous page. Nothing explicitly said USE="pic" was required, and since the gentoo-wiki page didn't mention it I guessed it was optional.
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hds
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Erlend wrote: |
I read the previous page. Nothing explicitly said USE="pic" was required |
say what???
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a) enable "pic" to your USEflags.
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it says that in the very first step. what about getting a pair of glasses? 
btw.. this howto would be pretty redundant if it wouldnt mention the pic useflag, IMHO  |
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cato`
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| Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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When I prelink I get absolutly no output, does this mean it was sucessfull or not?
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laptop root # prelink -avmfR
laptop root #
laptop root # prelink -avmqR
laptop root #
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radfoj
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| Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| cato` wrote: | When I prelink I get absolutly no output, does this mean it was sucessfull or not?
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laptop root # prelink -avmfR
laptop root #
laptop root # prelink -avmqR
laptop root #
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In my opinion prelink wasnt sucessfull. From man prelink:
| Code: | -v --verbose
Verbose mode. Print the virtual address slot assignment to libraries and print what binary or library is currently being prelinked. |
It should print out at liest something like this:
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Laying out 23 libraries in virtual address space 41000000-50000000
Random base 0x42f02000
Assigned virtual address space slots for libraries:
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/usr/lib/MozillaFirefox/libplds4.so 4bc2b000-4bc2ddf0
/usr/lib/MozillaFirefox/libnspr4.so 4bbf6000-4bc287c0
/usr/lib/libXmu.so.6 4cde6000-4cdfbd2c
/usr/lib/libpopt.so.0 4c1dc000-4c1e2f50
/usr/lib/MozillaFirefox/libplc4.so 4bc30000-4bc34698
/usr/lib/libXp.so.6 4bbe5000-4bbec58c
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cato`, are you sure, you have compiled glibc with "pic" USE-flag? |
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hds
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| Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| cato` wrote: | When I prelink I get absolutly no output, does this mean it was sucessfull or not?
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no, because you have -v (verbose). he process takes time, a few minutes (didnt look at the clock here)
however, if you get no output at all.. there really is something wrong.
@radfoj:
regardless if glibc is compiled with or without pic flag, he should get output and files wil be prelinked. however, it is of no use as long as glibc isnt compiled with "pic". however, the prelink process should work in any case. |
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kormoc
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[UK]Superdude
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| cato` wrote: | When I prelink I get absolutly no output, does this mean it was sucessfull or not?
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laptop root # prelink -avmfR
laptop root #
laptop root # prelink -avmqR
laptop root #
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I get the same result....
hmmmmm
Anyone have any ideas or suggestions? |
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vagus
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I don't have any output here either...  |
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provicemo
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:53 am Post subject: |
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No output for me either,
just recently upgraded to prelink-20041123.
Perhaps its related to the new version. |
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[UK]Superdude
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:05 am Post subject: |
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I too recently upgraded to the new prelink and wondered if it was related.
Hmmmm |
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hds
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| prelink -V gives "1.0" here as version. if you have a different version, have a look at "man prelink". maybe some options changed? |
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simondo42
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:12 am Post subject: |
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If you're not getting output from prelink check your /etc/prelink.conf file. If it contains duplicate directory entries prelink will look busy briefly and then won't do anything. I've found that removing the duplicate entries (manually each time, alas) will allow prelink to run fine.
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vagus
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Well, true enough my prelink.conf has duplicated entries:
| Code: | # prelink.conf autogenerated by env-update; make all changes to
# contents of /etc/env.d directory
-l /bin
-l /sbin
-l /usr/bin
-l /usr/sbin
-l /lib
-l /usr/lib
-h /usr/local/lib
-h /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib
-h /lib
-h /usr/lib
-h /usr/local/lib
-h /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3
-h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4
-h /usr/lib/MozillaFirefox
-h /usr/lib/mozilla
-h /usr/lib
-h /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.01/jre/lib
-h /usr/qt/3/lib
-h /usr/kde/3.3/lib
-h /usr/lib/nspr
-h /usr/lib/nss
-h /usr/games/lib
-h /usr/lib/fltk-1.1
-h /usr/lib/libstdc++-v3/
-h /usr/lib/R/lib
-h /opt/bin
-h /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/3.4.3
-h /opt/Acrobat5
-h /opt/xxe
-h /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.01/bin
-h /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.01/jre/bin
-h /usr/qt/3/bin
-h /usr/kde/3.3/bin
-h /usr/games/bin
-b /usr/lib/wine
-b /usr/lib/valgrind
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Following simondo42's advice, I commented out the duplicated entries:
| Code: | # prelink.conf autogenerated by env-update; make all changes to
# contents of /etc/env.d directory
-l /bin
-l /sbin
-l /usr/bin
-l /usr/sbin
#-l /lib
#-l /usr/lib
-h /usr/local/lib
-h /usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib
-h /lib
#-h /usr/lib
-h /usr/local/lib
-h /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3
-h /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4
-h /usr/lib/MozillaFirefox
-h /usr/lib/mozilla
-h /usr/lib
-h /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.01/jre/lib
-h /usr/qt/3/lib
-h /usr/kde/3.3/lib
-h /usr/lib/nspr
-h /usr/lib/nss
-h /usr/games/lib
-h /usr/lib/fltk-1.1
-h /usr/lib/libstdc++-v3/
-h /usr/lib/R/lib
-h /opt/bin
-h /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/3.4.3
-h /opt/Acrobat5
-h /opt/xxe
-h /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.01/bin
-h /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.01/jre/bin
-h /usr/qt/3/bin
-h /usr/kde/3.3/bin
-h /usr/games/bin
-b /usr/lib/wine
-b /usr/lib/valgrind
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But prelink still gives me no output! Is there something wrong with prelink.conf? |
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cato`
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:54 am Post subject: |
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@vagus: delete /etc/env.d/99prelink and edit 60prelink to your needs. Then do a env-update and the multiple entries are gone.
But I still get no output. Upgraded to newest prelink version, glibc is "PICed" ...
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simondo42
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Vagus: There are still multiple entries in your prelink.conf (/usr/local/lib, /usr/lib). There should be only one reference to a directory, regardless of whether it has -h or -l at the beginning of the line. I generally leave the -l lines alone and remove the duplicate -h lines.
I'm not sure that just altering the 60prelink file helps, as the duplicates are generated by other files in the /etc/env.d directory as well.
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vagus
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Oh I didn't realize that I still missed out 1 duplicated entry! After the commented the last one out, prelink finally gives me a lot of output!!!  (and my last line was Executing /sbin/init U)
I have yet found a way to prevent duplicated entries in prelink.conf. I don't really know how to change the 60prelink file. This is rather irritating. But I am glad enough that it works!
Thanks everybody! |
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radfoj
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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My opinion, I have /etc/prelink.conf and first two lines are saying:
| Code: | # prelink.conf autogenerated by env-update; make all changes to
# contents of /etc/env.d directory |
So I never modified it. I also have /etc/env.d/60prelink, and my defaults were:
| Code: | PRELINK_PATH_MASK=/usr/lib/wine:/usr/lib/valgrind
PRELINK_PATH="" |
During first prelinking it print such messages:
| Code: | | prelink: /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/winex/bin/wine: Could not find one of the dependencies |
So I modified 60prelink:
| Code: | PRELINK_PATH_MASK=/usr/lib/wine:/usr/lib/valgrind:/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/winex/bin
PRELINK_PATH="" |
Afterwards I typed env-update and in /etc/prelink.conf was automaticly added this line:
| Code: | | -b /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/winex/bin |
Look what you have in 60prelink and whether prelink.conf will be changed after env-update. |
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simondo42
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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radfoj: From what I've been able to tell, many of the files in the /etc/env.d directory have a LDPATH= entry in them which env-update uses to create the ld.so.conf and prelink.conf files. I'm running on ~x86, and many of the files list the same directories in the LDPATH lines. I think that's why you end up with duplicates in the prelink.conf. I'm not really game to start messing with these files too much, but I do add in the Ximian-OpenOffice and Firefox-bin installations so that they get prelinked as well  .
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radfoj
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| simondo42 wrote: | | radfoj:..... I think that's why you end up with duplicates in the prelink.conf. |
It was not my case. I never had any duplicates. I was only answering to these people, who tried comment some lines in prelink.conf and after this they prelinked succesfully. .... I am only afraid, that they will have duplicates there again in near future after next env-update. Yes, probably due something wrong in /etc/env.d. And their next prelink - maybe from cron - will not work. |
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simondo42
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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radfoj: I agree -- unless a script is prepended to remove the duplicate entries in prelink.conf at the beginning of the cron job, prelink will fail. I personally just manually edit the prelink.conf file whenever I run prelink, which I do whenever I install something which I use a lot or other packages depend on. Irritating, but ultimately not a major issue.
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Mikos
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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I am sorry to say that, but this HOWTO is completely wrong... The "trick" to prelink against binary NVidia drivers by temporarily switching to xorg-x11 opengl implementation doesn't work in reality. Because if you switch back to NVidia opengl implementation, your OpenGL applications will be using non-prelinked libraries, so you gain nothing.
But nevertheless this is non-issue, because new versions of qt and kde can be prelinked even if you are using NVidia opengl:
| Quote: | | To the best of my knowledge, Qt >= 3.3.0 offers a configure option (--dlopen-opengl) that removes its hard-wired dependency on libGL (which is then loaded on demand); this allows you to prelink Qt/KDE applications even with the NVIDIA driver present on your system. |
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