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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess I can't drop any patches for the next release then. Oh well. Anybody have any non-insane requests?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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next month you sale kernels?


No, next month we release kernels which panic when someone with your username logs in.....

U should go to jail for this statement.....

n00b-a**hole....


LOL!

I couldn't even tell what that guy was saying... It's possible it was tounge-in-cheek sarcasm or something, but it sure came out wrong.

I've often thought that people shouldn't nudge, joke around or be sarcastic in any language they are not perfectly fluent in. The line between cajoling and insulting is mighty fine...

heh

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Kernel compiles just fine, boots just fine, and is generally good. But the ATI fglrx module refuses to build, failing with a "DRM module not built" error. It's the same one I got when trying gentoo-dev-sources 2.6.10 (2.6.9 works fine). I've heard something about a portage overlay to fix this. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I like the features of nitro and really don't want to go back to a 2.6.9 kernel.


Try this. I've got the fglrx driver working fine now. Also make sure you emerge the latest version of opengl-update, as there has been an important bug removed very recently.
Using that, I get the following error:
(Note: I renamed the ebuild from -r3 to -r4 because there's a different -r3 in portage that I didn't want to conflict with. I get the same error with the portage -r3.)
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emerge =ati-drivers-8.8.25-r4
Calculating dependencies
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "=ati-drivers-8.8.25-r4" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request
- media-video/ati-drivers-8.8.25-r4 (masked by: -* keyword)
I'm currently asking around in the Portage forum trying to figure out how to bypass this - putting it in /etc/portage/package.unmask didn't work. Any tips? I'm currently running X just fine on the generic ATI driver. However, 3D Acceleration is a must for me. I love Nitro sources - they're fast, flexible, and this USB Mouse Polling patch is one of the greatest things I've seen yet (Makes my Intellimouse Explorer feel like an MX1000). But if I can't get 3D acceleration.... I guess I'll go back to gentoo-dev-sources. I'm more than willing to try any ideas; I'm just running out of them.


This may/may not work, but try use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="-*" emerge ati-drivers-8.8.25-r4

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correction: Arainach, you have to unmask it by editing the ebuild (I'm guessing it's hardmasked in there) and changing -* to x86 or whatever you're on. If that doesn't work, add the appropriate entry to /etc/portage/package.unmask.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darckness wrote:
Correction: Arainach, you have to unmask it by editing the ebuild (I'm guessing it's hardmasked in there) and changing -* to x86 or whatever you're on. If that doesn't work, add the appropriate entry to /etc/portage/package.unmask.


Good ol darckness always knows best, I don't use portage so i don't know much about it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darckness wrote:
Correction: Arainach, you have to unmask it by editing the ebuild (I'm guessing it's hardmasked in there) and changing -* to x86 or whatever you're on. If that doesn't work, add the appropriate entry to /etc/portage/package.unmask.
That worked to unmask it. Now I'm trying to compile it. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ahorn wrote:
next month you sale kernels?


No, next month we release kernels which panic when someone with your username logs in.....

U should go to jail for this statement.....

n00b-a**hole....


LOL!

I couldn't even tell what that guy was saying... It's possible it was tounge-in-cheek sarcasm or something, but it sure came out wrong.

I've often thought that people shouldn't nudge, joke around or be sarcastic in any language they are not perfectly fluent in. The line between cajoling and insulting is mighty fine...

heh

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Oh yeah, its sarcasm. Thanks for the tipp Gserack, cause itsnt my language. I'm going to stop my joking.

tiger, you dont have to say words like this, or maybe it is your style. but i hope it isnt.
i should go to jail for a statement? sorry for my spam and for my mistaken post.
dont be so angry, i think, you dont sell kernels, but i'm going to try morph-sources if nitro-sources panics with my username (hmm, i can still log with root :-), bad idea, yeah?)
oh, and i'm not a a-hole. but the funny is, people with statements like these are in jail.

to the thread: i really like the kernel, it runs nice.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahorn: Tiger683 meant his statement in a purely joking manner. We realize here that not everyone can speak English as their primary language, and half the nitro developers are in that state as well. You should probably make sure that your post cannot be taken the wrong way (I honestly had no idea what your first post said) so that this doesn't happen

Nobody is going to jail (except maybe me for abusing too many underage kernels...), and there will be no kernel panics related to usernames or anything of the sort. First of all, that would be far too much effort. Second, the nitro devs don't have enough time to create custom kill-on-login functions in nitro because we have better things to do than screw up something that actually has potential. Third, we just don't care enough to make sure that specific users don't use nitro.

Our policy is that if you like another patchset better, or you find another patchset to suit your needs more effectively, you should use that. We make nitro-sources because we believe that we're making something worthwhile, and because we find stock kernels to be boring/lacking.

Tiger683: No more crazy jokes unless you're in the sekrit channel with us.

/me waves his hand in the classic jedi mind-trick gesture: "This is not the flame-war you are looking for."
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...The bypass and the overlay worked perfectly.

The embarrasing point came when I was still getting ~x86 errors and noticed that my package.keywords said "media-drivers/ati-drivers", not "media-video/ati-drivers"; I'm not sure if the -* bypass was needed or not. Either way, I now have a blazing fast kernel and 3D Acceleration. Thanks to everyone who helped me. I love these sources! (Goes to update Sig)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darckness wrote:
You should probably make sure that your post cannot be taken the wrong way (I honestly had no idea what your first post said) so that this doesn't happen

Yes, i see it. I think, thats the point (my bad english). so again, sorry for my mistake.
The way, Tiger said, all is secretly, has remind me to binaries. like the cedega/wine stuff and thinks like that ..., thats what i wanted to put in this little sentence. shame on me, my dictonary is not big enough to say it funny in the english language.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahorn: Ah, I get it now. Your joke was that we would sell nitro-sources as transgaming sells cedega. I doubt this will happen (unless seppe gets REALLY poor) ;). And I bet that your English is better than my ability to speak whatever your native language is.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for rough words, but I'm REALLY getting nuts when someone puts
open-source software and the word "sell" in the same context....

Sorry ahorn, just didn't know u r such an ok guy....

cheers

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PS: I'm from germany, so for me english is also a foreign language ... =c)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why isnt it8212 included anymore? i need it to get my drives to work no working patches out their or what?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robin79: I stopped including it because it seems to already be integrated into main. Have you tried it?

EDIT: Hrmm...seems to have disappeared recently for some reason. I'll put it in the next release if I can find it again.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

couldnt find it so where to i enable it?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try looking in the SCSI section, otherwise the patch disappeared as Darckness said.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also: With this kernel I am unable to get my vesa-tng fbsplash or Framebuffer working. I simply get the normal text-only screen. Here's the applicable lines from my grub.conf:

title Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-nitro ro root=/dev/hda3 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,pmipal,1280x1024-32@60 splash=verbose,theme:emergence
initrd (hd0,0)/fbsplash-emergence-1280x1024

Any ideas as to what I need to fix?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arainach: why don't you use pure vesa? Works here since 2.4 kernels...

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open-source software and the word "sell" in the same context....

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, let me put it this way:
anything that is opensource AND licenced as free of charge, so linux kernel is an example of such software
(please, this discussion has ALWAYS been around, so lets not start it here, i bet you got my point anyway...)

cheers,

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hermes, i love your avatar, its sooooo cool......
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i won't be able to test this great/perfect/cool :lol: kernel before saturday :evil: :evil: :evil: but i have a question : does netfilter compile fine ? because on previous nitro releases, i got a strange error when i tried to compile module ipv4_conntrack (i can't remember, but i think it said that a function was declared inside parameters or something like that :oops: ). Does someone else got the same problem ?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant find it IT8212 so iam still using the 2.6.10-nitro2 qworks pretty good so i have to stay on this one until i get it to work then :P
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ahorn: Ah, I get it now. Your joke was that we would sell nitro-sources as transgaming sells cedega. I doubt this will happen (unless seppe gets REALLY poor) ;). And I bet that your English is better than my ability to speak whatever your native language is.


Everyone can speak english, but us american's such at anything that isn't english :P. Funny isn't it?
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which version of reiser4 is used for this sources?
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Robin79: I stopped including it because it seems to already be integrated into main. Have you tried it?

EDIT: Hrmm...seems to have disappeared recently for some reason. I'll put it in the next release if I can find it again.



Thanx iam using 2.6.10-nitro2 works stable here :) but as we all want it latest is greatest.
You can also link me the patch url instead if you find it
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arainach wrote:
Also: With this kernel I am unable to get my vesa-tng fbsplash or Framebuffer working. I simply get the normal text-only screen. Here's the applicable lines from my grub.conf:

title Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-nitro ro root=/dev/hda3 video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,pmipal,1280x1024-32@60 splash=verbose,theme:emergence
initrd (hd0,0)/fbsplash-emergence-1280x1024

Any ideas as to what I need to fix?



hi arainach,

have you tried to rebuild your initrd with current kernel-version? :wink:
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