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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:49 pm    Post subject: yasi ( Yet Another Silo Issue ) reiserfs Reply with quote

Hi,
So I go thru the whole documented install, only to find at the silo conf that silo "doesn't support Reiserfs" - after running /sbin/silo! Not in documentation?

I'm new to Gentoo, is there a work around? Or should I start over and use ext3 or ext2?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a seperate /boot partition, you can reformat it with ext2 or 3, re-emerge silo, setup your config again and copy the kernel over. Otherwise yes you'll have to start over.2
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weeve wrote:
If you have a seperate /boot partition, you can reformat it with ext2 or 3, re-emerge silo, setup your config again and copy the kernel over. Otherwise yes you'll have to start over.2


cool... i thought maybe just the /boot part was the prob....

Looking forward to Gentoo....!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow...so, start over...all the way? Maybe that should have been in the instructions sooner. After going through this 4 times to get to this stage, I am very frustrated. How can I help the documentation for installing on a SPARC? The current documentation is not consistent, and could use a lot of improvement.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: If 2.6 kernel, stay away from reiserfs Reply with quote

I've read it here before, and I've had the first had experience.
Reiserfs with the 2.6 kernel on the sparc is iffy.

My / partition was set up as reiserfs with the 2.6.6 kernel
in December. We had a power outage and after that there
were strange errors while emerging stuff. I ran the reiserfs
version of fsck from a Live CD and it said there were errors
too serious for it to fix. It suggested rebuild-tree. I did that,
and it got to stage 3 before giving a bus error (rebooted Live CD,
and same results again).

I restored the system from a full disk image, and then recreated the
/ partition as ext3. The system has worked flawlessly
since.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: If 2.6 kernel, stay away from reiserfs Reply with quote

labrador wrote:

Reiserfs with the 2.6 kernel on the sparc is iffy.


I would agree there... and to be honest I am not bothering with it under 2.4 either !

labrador wrote:

I restored the system from a full disk image, and then recreated the
/ partition as ext3. The system has worked flawlessly
since.


For reasons like this I to have moved to EXT3 on the sun systems. TBH I have never had a problem with Reiser on PC hardware.. I hated EXT2 (we were having some bad brown outs at the time and the system started eating the file systems) but EXT3 seems to be a good way to go.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I wiped the partition table and am starting over...As much as I really wanted to do Reiser, I guess I'll go twith ext3. I am going to document my session this time so I can help others when they get here. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Section 4.d of the Installation Handbook does recommend against using reiserfs.

However it does not mention compatibility problems with SILO.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for giving a reason why I should stay away from reiserfs on sparc. This helps and hurts... I was running reiser on my old Alpha Multia in 2001.

I'm not very far along, I've noticed that the sparc handbook seems out of date in some places - for that reason I was thinking the reiser warning might be "old news."

Question: What are the ramifications of NOT going with a Sun disk label? I don't care about read/write from Solaris. But will SILO know how to boot something with a PC partition table? This could be in the docs...

Doc updates: (?)
Don't use Reiserfs -- here's why...
You must do Sun disk label -- here's why...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to be picky here... but what is /usr/bin/[ on the stage3 tarball?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toyz wrote:

Question: What are the ramifications of NOT going with a Sun disk label? I don't care about read/write from Solaris. But will SILO know how to boot something with a PC partition table? This could be in the docs...

Doc updates: (?)
You must do Sun disk label -- here's why...


I'll answer my own question. Of course I had to try with a PC partition. Now I'm rsyncing my gentoo off to another box so I can repartition and drop it back on.

The answer is: SILO must land in a place that the Sun OpenBoot stuff jumps to. Without using Sun disk label on your disk, it apparently doesn't know how to jump to SILO.

Code:
Sun Ultra 5/10 UPA/PCI (UltraSPARC-IIi 400MHz), No Keyboard             
OpenBoot 3.25, 256 MB (50 ns) memory installed, Serial #16330480.       
Ethernet address 8:0:20:f9:2e:f0, Host ID: 80f92ef0.                   
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                                       
Rebooting with command: boot                                           
Bad magic number in disk label                                         
Can't open disk label package                                           
Boot device: disk:h  File and args:                                     
Bad magic number in disk label                                         
Can't open disk label package                                           
Evaluating: boot                                                       
                                                                       
Can't open boot device                                                 
                                                                       
Bad magic number in disk label                                         
Can't open disk label package                                           
Boot device: disk:h  File and args:                                     
Bad magic number in disk label                                         
Can't open disk label package                                           
Evaluating: boot                                                       
                                                                       
Can't open boot device                                                 
                                                                       
ok                                                                     
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is more that Sun machines typically have problems booting from systems with no whole disk partition. This is a function of OBP and what it is looking for by default.

You might be able to create a new NVRAM alias to point to the exact partition that SILO is installed on to get around this, but it's a guess so if you're feeling adventerous...
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