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StifflerStealth
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| ag_x wrote: | I still believe that we can moderate ourselves.
Soon or later,through a short period of time,the balance will come with the one way or another.
Despite the popular beliefe,there is no lack of intelligence in gentoo forum. |
Yeah, well, we all know how that worked out just great on Wikipedia and the Sollog incident. Let that be a reminder of what can happen. At least we have mods/admins here that stop things from getting that blanently out of control.
I've never been a big advocate on post-count either, and no, my post-count has really been this low in the 2 years that I have been here. There was just really no need for me to post that much. Of course, I have been away for a year and a half, so that kinda helps keep the post-count low as well.
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pjp
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| nyteryda wrote: | | Jokeing that depends on your definition, a satirical statement, weather i am saying i would do it, or that someone might do it are not the same things. |
You are correct, which is why I asked for clarification.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry if this has already been said, but why not make OTW into what it probably should be:
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Want to talk about Linux issues not related to Gentoo? Or anything else not related to Gentoo? Post it here.
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I've actually used OTW several times for non-gentoo related linux stuff or tech stuff in general. Why not just have the mods delete out all the religion / political / etc crap that floods OTW. Just leave the tech threads that aren't necessarily gentoo related.
Edit: s/linux/gentoo/
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plbe
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i cant wait to see how many _real_ posts cokehabit has  |
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Lovechild
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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The community was the one really good thing about Gentoo.. now it's being ripped to to shreds.
thanks for the fish. |
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plbe
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Lovechild wrote: | The community was the one really good thing about Gentoo.. now it's being ripped to to shreds.
thanks for the fish. |
you use fedora anyway so stfu |
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Pink
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Good to see the post count gone when posting in OTW (i.e. here!).
AS I said, it did work on some other forums, but it will take some time. Other forums have gone a step further (after similar tests) and banned OTW altogether or allowing 'Computer' OTW only (I'm not going to get into the politics of that).
It'll be interesting to see if works here.
On the other fourms I go to where they did the same thing, it hasn't diluted the other threads. /me shrugs
Anyway, gets my support. Let's hope for the best.
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nyteryda
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | nyteryda wrote: | | Jokeing that depends on your definition, a satirical statement, weather i am saying i would do it, or that someone might do it are not the same things. |
You are correct, which is why I asked for clarification. |
Jokeing implies it is funny, it is a serious point, however, one i doubt you have thought about. before you decide that punishment was a fun idea. The only reason i do still care about this account is because this is my username everywhere. and it is part of my identity.
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hellbringer
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I agree with posts in OTW not counting as part of post-count. I was quite surprised at first that this was so. However I'm not sure that will solve the civism problems of OTW. Only time will tell.
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srlinuxx
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| paranode wrote: | | Delete it, it's counterproductive to Gentoo. |
or at least restrict it to computer or technology topics. religion, politics, sex, our favorite foods, and personal attacks, whatever, just makes too much noise. It's bad enough having to sift thru all those other language posts. If you wanna discuss those topics, there are other forums to do that. A few links have been posted.
Click on "new since last visit" and it can be pages and pages with only a half dozen interesting/relevant topics. I know interesting/relevant is subjective, but I'm sure my point is clear. This is a gentoo forum. I'd like to see it used for that. It's just gotten too way outta hand lately.
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hensan
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Yay, I'm a Guru again.  |
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aethyr
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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You people are all a bunch of jerkasses (kidding!).
Anyways, I have no problem with not counting OTW towards postcounts. I do think that gentoo chat should count though, as a lot of ideas and suggestions about gentoo are voiced there, which are valuable on a technical level. See here for some examples of "useful" posts:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=252997
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=226909
Note, this is only the opinion of a l33t former veteran ;) |
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ralph
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Personally I'd hate to see OTW go as it's really a great place to kill time and talk to people you normally probably wouldn't talk to (where else am I supposed to stumble upon Texan republicans?  ).
But these are the gentoo forums, they are here to support the distribution and it's users, so if OTW does indeed drain too much recources killing it would be a good thing.
Finally, can anybody enlighten me if there are really people that care about their postcount? I mean, if anything my amount of posts showed that I was spending entirely too much time hanging around here, so seeing my postcount go down is actually a good thin.
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nyteryda
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| ralph wrote: | Personally I'd hate to see OTW go as it's really a great place to kill time and talk to people you normally probably wouldn't talk to (where else am I supposed to stumble upon Texan republicans? ).
But these are the gentoo forums, they are here to support the distribution and it's users, so if OTW does indeed drain too much recources killing it would be a good thing.
Finally, can anybody enlighten me if there are really people that care about their postcount? I mean, if anything my amount of posts showed that I was spending entirely too much time hanging around here, so seeing my postcount go down is actually a good thin. |
If they had never been in place i wouldn't have cared, but being scolled like a naughty school boy i don't like.
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dat
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| srlinuxx wrote: | | paranode wrote: | | Delete it, it's counterproductive to Gentoo. |
or at least restrict it to computer or technology topics. religion, politics, sex, our favorite foods, and personal attacks, whatever, just makes too much noise. It's bad enough having to sift thru all those other language posts. If you wanna discuss those topics, there are other forums to do that. A few links have been posted |
That's exactly what I was saying. Hopefully, that'll happen (rather than just getting rid of OTW all together).
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pjp
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| nyteryda wrote: | | Jokeing implies it is funny, it is a serious point, however, one i doubt you have thought about. |
Thought about what?
| nyteryda wrote: | | before you decide that punishment was a fun idea. The only reason i do still care about this account is because this is my username everywhere. and it is part of my identity. |
I don't see how postcount is related to your account being banned.
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nyteryda
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | nyteryda wrote: | | Jokeing implies it is funny, it is a serious point, however, one i doubt you have thought about. |
Thought about what?
| nyteryda wrote: | | before you decide that punishment was a fun idea. The only reason i do still care about this account is because this is my username everywhere. and it is part of my identity. |
I don't see how postcount is related to your account being banned. |
If you don't have a postcount to lose ? why would you care if your account got banned ? (unless like me your username is important too you) if no cares about said banning you are free to behave as badly as you like, with streams of alternate accounts and proxies etc.
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pjp
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| nyteryda wrote: | | unless like me your username is important too you |
Well then, I guess its imperative that you do your utmost to avoid being banned.
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ralph
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Stop it children!
This is exactly what will send OTW down the drain, so please, behave yourselves or at least exchange pms.
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Inte
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WTF?  I love the nerds from OTW. Without them and their comments Gentoo community wouldn't be the same as before. Just imagine Lovechild, Curtis911, Cokehabit and everyone else posts in a regular forum (Installing Gentoo for example). N00Bs will be scared. 
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nyteryda
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | nyteryda wrote: | | unless like me your username is important too you |
Well then, I guess its imperative that you do your utmost to avoid being banned. |
Would I do anything to get myself banned? I mean come on its little old me we are talking about...
(I wouldn't go as far as too say imperative, or even that its worth that much bothering, just worth slighly more bother than not bothering at all)
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Zaphod42
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I once again suggest that the posts from OTW be archived (if this is possible), the forum removed, and just a link to The Real OTW put where it used to be.
This would solve the problems in a hurry, and let the mods focus on the support forums, which are what should be focused on.
Hmmm, I guess the script is going in alphabetical order, my postcount hasn't vanished yet... when it reaches the "z"'s, I should be down to about 2 or 3 posts...
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supernovus
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| Zaphod42 wrote: | I once again suggest that the posts from OTW be archived (if this is possible), the forum removed, and just a link to The Real OTW put where it used to be.
This would solve the problems in a hurry, and let the mods focus on the support forums, which are what should be focused on.
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Seconded!
PS Zaphod, I'm already down to 141... so it's gotten to the S letters already... you'll be one of the last to go down... damn Z names...
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brenden
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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nooooo....i'm a pathetic guru now
i guess it shows my contribution level to gentoo. |
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ciaranm
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| Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| AllTom wrote: | | Are the people that make the Gentoo forums famous for support the same people that would consider leaving if the OTW forum were deleted? |
Not really, no. A lot of the OTW people are the crackpot reiser-4/short-wang-sources/insane CFLAGS lunatics who go around giving everyone a really bad impression of Gentoo.
| ian! wrote: | | We hired a monkey that calculates the postcount and enters >55000 sql-statements. |
Woah, Jeff knows SQL now?
| Lovechild wrote: | | The community was the one really good thing about Gentoo.. now it's being ripped to to shreds. |
The forums are hardly the only part of the Gentoo community, and OTW is hardly the only part of the forums... |
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