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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2003 1:30 am    Post subject: Quickest Q ever pls read.... Reply with quote

I was installing Gentoo (stage 3) and I think I srewed up (KDE binaries took as long as Gnome sources did to install) and compiled KDE (Instead of binaries as intended), the bonehead happened cuz I didn't set ANY Cflags when I did KDE.

I want to re-install KDE (with some CFlags this time:)) and get this:
Code:
bash-2.05b# emerge --pretend kde

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/arts-1.0.5a [1.0.4-r1]
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.0.5a [3.0.4-r1]
[ebuild  N   ] kde-base/kdegames-3.0.5a
[ebuild    U ] kde-base/kdebase-3.0.5a [3.0.4-r3]
[ebuild  N   ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.0.5a
[ebuild  N   ] media-video/xanim-2.80.1-r4
[ebuild  N   ] media-sound/mpg123-0.59r-r1
[ebuild  N   ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.0.5a
[ebuild  N   ] kde-base/kdetoys-3.0.5a
[ebuild  N   ] kde-base/kdepim-3.0.5a
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/svgalib-1.4.3-r4
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/libsdl-1.2.4.20020601
[ebuild  N   ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.0.5a
[ebuild  N   ] app-arch/rpm-4.0.4-r4
[ebuild  N   ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.0.5a
[ebuild  N   ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.0.5a
[ebuild  N   ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.0.5a
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/giflib-4.1.0-r3
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/imlib-1.9.14-r1
[ebuild  N   ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.0.5a
[ebuild  N   ] kde-base/kdeedu-3.0.5a
[ebuild  N   ] kde-base/kde-3.0.5a


1)If I just go:
Code:
emerge  kde

Will all go as I plan?

2)Should KDE be markedly slower than Gnome?

PS:I used to love Gnome and Loathe KDE... Now, I think Gnome has gotten WORSE than RH72 days and I almost like KDE more than WinXP (If I can speed it up then for sure KDE is king)

On a sidenote, has NE1 found a tabs/popup hack for Konqorer?


thnx.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2003 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
 emerge kde

will compile and install all the packages that the --pretend flag listed.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2003 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KDE apps tend to start slower than Gnome/gtk apps, but prelinking helps this by quite a lot, so if you use prelinking you'll probably be quite satisfied with kde. You could also do emerge kdebase if you want, which will give you a working kde environment, and then you can emerge other packages as desired, such as kdegames, kdenetwork and so forth.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prelinking? is that a kernel option?

Is there a list of all the emerged programs?(there isn't a link in the emerge guide)

I thought I was installing KDE binaries but when Gnome compiling took as long as KDE I knew something was amiss so last night I did an
Code:
emerge -e world
and now everything is running very smoothly.

Code:
USE="3dnow alsa apm avi cdr cups encode gif gnome gtk java jikes jpeg kde mmx mpeg oav oggvorbis pdflib perl qt quicktime samba socks5 spell ssl tiff turetype X xmms xv"
CFLAGS="-march=athlon-tbird -O3 -pipe"

How do you think that looks in terms of compiler flags? If I added a few more could I bump performance up a bit?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

prelinking is a program which... well, I'm not sure I understand it very well actually just yet, but basically it makes programs load dynamically linked libraries faster, thus they start much faster. There's a guide to it if you search the gentoo website.

Why do you ant to install kde binaries? If you're looking for speed binaries are not the way to go on Gentoo. If you're concerned about compile time just build kde while you're sleeping. I'm not sure if there are even binary kde packages.

As for compiler flags, assuming athlon-tbird is the correct flag for your processor (you didn't specify it as far as I can see) then that's fine, but some people prefer to have -fomit-frame-pointer in there as well. There is a very major thread for compiler flags if you want to check it out, it might still be stickied in whichever forum it was in (portage and programming maybe?).
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