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mona- n00b
Joined: 18 Dec 2002 Posts: 40
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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 7:15 am Post subject: [JA] Japanese Gentoo user |
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日本語でgentooを語ろう
というスレッド
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mickywicky Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 86 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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読める? |
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mickywicky Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 86 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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well, it looks like the forum doesn't support non-western languages |
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rac Bodhisattva
Joined: 30 May 2002 Posts: 6553 Location: Japanifornia
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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The problem has to do with the fact that you can't mix character encodings in a single HTML page. Text submitted to a form is in the encoding of the surrounding page. For the English forum skin, that's ISO-8859-1. If we could get the Japanese forum skin going, it would be possible to post Japanese.
We are working on a solution to this problem that will hopefully solve this gracefully for Japanese and other non-Latin1 character encodings, but I can't give an estimate for when it will be working yet, because a couple of other things have to fall into place. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your patience. _________________ For every higher wall, there is a taller ladder |
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mickywicky Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 86 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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no rush, I think many Japanese Gentoo users can do english quite well enough
thx in any case |
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dob Apprentice
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 199 Location: S.L.P.
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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これは日本語テストです
it only works in the author column it seems |
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dob Apprentice
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 199 Location: S.L.P.
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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If you look at the source of the html page, you can see that in the autors column the unicode codes are right:
but in the message part phpbb added "amp;" between the & and the #
Code: | <span class="postbody">これは日本 語テストです |
EDIT (rac): offering to phpBB linebreak gods |
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rac Bodhisattva
Joined: 30 May 2002 Posts: 6553 Location: Japanifornia
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if phpBB is doing that on the output side, or if the browser is escaping things before they get sent. _________________ For every higher wall, there is a taller ladder |
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dob Apprentice
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 199 Location: S.L.P.
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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it's probably part of the filter which converts ubb code into html |
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plate Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Jul 2002 Posts: 1663 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Just fooling around here: I'm trying to reproduce that author location display of Japanese characters that you've managed to get to work, but all I get is a display of the UTF-8 codes instead of the actual display. How did you do it? |
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dob Apprentice
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 199 Location: S.L.P.
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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a step in the wrong direction now it doesn't work anymore at all.
'amps' are added even in the profile.
バカ |
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dob Apprentice
Joined: 04 Oct 2002 Posts: 199 Location: S.L.P.
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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日本語
漢字
ひらがな
カタカナ
第3新東京市
Ok now it works in the main message colum, I hope it'll work again soon in the profile / authors column |
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mickywicky Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 86 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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wicked, let me try this...
これは日本語のテストだ。
Gentooの日本語ができるForumへようこそう!!
(couldn't figure out how to have "fo" in katakana) |
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plate Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Jul 2002 Posts: 1663 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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やっぱこれだ!すごいじゃん!ありがとう!
何で急にできたのかなあ○ |
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rac Bodhisattva
Joined: 30 May 2002 Posts: 6553 Location: Japanifornia
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 12:38 am Post subject: |
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私も遊べるのでしょうか? _________________ For every higher wall, there is a taller ladder |
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rac Bodhisattva
Joined: 30 May 2002 Posts: 6553 Location: Japanifornia
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 12:42 am Post subject: |
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mickywicky wrote: | (couldn't figure out how to have "fo" in katakana) | フォ _________________ For every higher wall, there is a taller ladder |
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plate Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Jul 2002 Posts: 1663 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 1:17 am Post subject: |
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ご自分でフォーラムを日本語化したじゃないんですか?
Is it just my local display or do tens and marus look elevated to you too?
。 maru
、 ten |
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mona- n00b
Joined: 18 Dec 2002 Posts: 40
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 6:30 am Post subject: |
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キタ━━━━━━ (゚∀゚) ━━━━━━!!
ついに日本語が使用可能になりましたね。
どなたにお礼を申し上げればよいのでしょうか? |
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plate Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Jul 2002 Posts: 1663 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 7:17 am Post subject: |
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どうでしょうかね。おそRAC々のおかげだろうと思いますが。 |
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rac Bodhisattva
Joined: 30 May 2002 Posts: 6553 Location: Japanifornia
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Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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「凄く苦労した」と言いたいけれど、嘘です。まだ原因は不明ですが、最近の phpBB 2.0.4 のアップグレードは今の所一番可能性が高いかと思われています。自然に使えるようになりました。
*shrug*
@plate: 点と丸は普通の位置で表示されまる _________________ For every higher wall, there is a taller ladder |
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plate Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Jul 2002 Posts: 1663 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:04 am Post subject: |
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自然に治ったの? よかったね。。。
区切りの表示問題はPhoenixに限られていて分かってきました。Konquerorには順調に表示してます。 |
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mona- n00b
Joined: 18 Dec 2002 Posts: 40
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 7:10 am Post subject: |
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>どうでしょうかね。おそRAC々のおかげだろうと思いますが。
>「凄く苦労した」と言いたいけれど、嘘です。まだ原因は不明ですが、
>最近の phpBB 2.0.4 のアップグレードは今の所一番可能性が高いかと
>思われています。自然に使えるようになりました。
自然に日本語使用可能になったという事は、また自然に使えなくなる
という事もあるのだろうか。。。
とにかく、rac氏ならびに八百万(やおよろず)の神さまに感謝いたします。
(02/06 22:13 JST 文字コード修正しました。)
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plate Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Jul 2002 Posts: 1663 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 7:28 am Post subject: |
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面白いことにmona-さんのEUC_JPにエンコードされたメッセージはブラウザーの自動選択モードで文字化けになってしまいますが、逆にブラウザーをEUC_JPにすると区切りの表示問題は解決して来ます。不思議だなあ。。。 |
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Carlos Guru
Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Posts: 458 Location: Providence, RI
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Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:59 am Post subject: |
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うわ、すごいですね。では、日本語フォーラムを設立しましょうか?
plate: 句読点等の問題は、なぜかPhoenixのフォントをSans SerifからSerifに変えたら直ってしまいました。訳あって僕はMozillaに移ってますが。 _________________ Man must shape his tools lest they shape him. |
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plate Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Jul 2002 Posts: 1663 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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あ、本当だ。 Serifなら大丈夫ですけど、やっぱり酷いフォントになっちゃいます。じゃあ、KHTMLの方がいいんでしょうか。Steve Jobsもそう思うんじゃないですか? |
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