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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:52 pm    Post subject: broadband through electrical outlets Reply with quote

http://money.cnn.com/2004/10/15/technology/web_outlet/
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heard this two months ago. quite cool.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets see them bring broadband to the plumbing system, THEN I would be impressed. Then I could upload my core dump and check my email all at the same time!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The really fun system is the inhome control systems, turn lights on and off from your pc using your power sockets.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing but speculation. In the 1950'S, they said in the year 2000. we would have robots cook us dinner and we would be using our flying cars to get to work. When it happens, I will believe it. :D
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This seems like a setup for when computers take over the world 8O
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slyde wrote:
Nothing but speculation. In the 1950'S, they said in the year 2000. we would have robots cook us dinner and we would be using our flying cars to get to work. When it happens, I will believe it. :D


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/15/fcc_powerline/

Oh and the X10 stuff has been around for 3 or 4 years. I heard about it ina magazine article describing how you do it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slyde wrote:
Nothing but speculation. In the 1950'S, they said in the year 2000. we would have robots cook us dinner and we would be using our flying cars to get to work. When it happens, I will believe it. :D


Not sure what ya mean here, Slyde. This tech is already in place in Europe as well as the test bed in Cincinatti.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah this stuff's been around for a while in some places.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed that the FCC is finally getting around to meddling in broadband-via-powerline.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't recall where I read it at the moment, but from what I've seen, the FCC just made a ruling that telcos don't have to share Fiber in the same way as they share copper lines. I believe SBC made the argument that they'd deploy fiber to every home at a faster pace if they didn't have to share. Way I see it though, FCC will stay on the "no share" policy until the fiber has been layed out.. then they'll change their minds, heh.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stormy Eyes wrote:
I noticed that the FCC is finally getting around to meddling in broadband-via-powerline.


Which, as I understand it (slashknowledge) is a bad idea, and causes problems for all sorts of communications, especially for amateur "ham" radio operators. Power lines are like gigantic antennas as far as high frequency is concerned.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay but since the broadband is going to a main grid say everyone on the neightborhood got it woudent it slow it down?

Just like cable used to be back in the days? and sometimes today when alot of people are on at the same time the net slows down and soemtimes comes to a crawl? How much bandwidth can a Big ass coper wire handle?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sphynxx wrote:
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Nothing but speculation. In the 1950'S, they said in the year 2000. we would have robots cook us dinner and we would be using our flying cars to get to work. When it happens, I will believe it. :D


Not sure what ya mean here, Slyde. This tech is already in place in Europe as well as the test bed in Cincinatti.

Go see the thread about religion and uncertainity :wink:
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The technology is here, the limiter is cost. The problem is the power transformers block signals in the frequency range that would be needed for reliable data transmission, so bypass circuits are required. Unfortunately installing those circuits is too expensive. That's the most up to date info I have on this.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The technology is here already, quite a few years back they were trialing it. It causes problems with radio transmissions and some of the ham guys don't like it Obviously big business is involved in this, and for the power companies to take a slice of the communication pie might prove a little problematic but it will come, and limited bandwidth will just become a story to bore your kids with.

And robots do prepare our food, they look like food processors :), and the helicopter is used by the wealthy.
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