Need help creating ebuild for "lurker"

geowapa · n00b Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 50

I'm trying to create an ebuild for the e-mail list archiver package called lurker - http://lurker.sourceforge.net/. I've searched the bugs list and breakmygentoo sites and have not found any hint that anyone might be working on this.

I've managed to get the ebuild to work and install the package, but I ran into a couple of issues.

- It depends upon mimelib which comes with kde-pim. But kde doesn't link the libmimelib.so file into /usr/lib, and lurker's 'configure' couldn't find it. I finally made a symbolic link into /usr/lib from /usr/kde/3.3/lib/libmimelib.so, but I'm sure that this is the wrong way to fix this. I doubt that I should have the lurker ebuild create that link. Any suggestions for a more correct way?

- kde-pim is a really big install, to just get the mime library. Lurker also has a version of mimelib in the lurker project on sourceforge for anyone without KDE. I expect that the better soution would be to have the ebuild use kde-pim if it is present, and download the standalone mimelib if kde-pim is not there. But I'm not sure how I should accomplish this. I assume that I should create a separate ebuild for the standalone mimelib? The ebuild would then require either mimelib or kde-pim?

Thanks,
George

Duck-Billed Platypus · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 3:16 am Post subject:

I don't know how to write ebuilds, though...

You might want to do something like if USE=kde then use the lib with kde-pim else download lib from sourceforge. I think the linking would be fine.
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geowapa · n00b Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 50

Thanks for the suggestions. The reason that I don't think that the link would be right is that because any updates to kde-pim wouldn't know to maintain the link in /usr/lib. I assume that the reason the kde ebuild doesn't lnk librarys into /usr/lib is so that multiple versions of KDE can coexist.

daved · n00b Joined: 04 Jul 2002 Posts: 4 Location: Seattle, WA

Hello,

You can actually download mimelib from http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8168 and instruct Lurker to compile it and statically link to it (./configure --with-mimelib-local).

Hope this helps,

DaveD
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geowapa · n00b Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 50

Hi Daved,

I was aware of the lurker version of mimelib, and considering the size of kde-pim, you may have the better alternative. Do you have any suggestions on how to get the ebuild to download the mimelib source? I tried adding a second file to the SRC_URI line:

SRC_URI="mirror://sourceforge/lurker/${P}.tar.gz mirror://sourceforge/lurker/mimelib-3.3.1.tar.gz"

But that seems to break things. And I can't see how to link the mimelib version into the lurker ebuild. The lurker source version is inherited from the ebuild name, but the mimelib version doesnt' track the lurker version. I suspect that I need a separate ebuild for mimelib, but mimelib is not the project name on sourceforge (There is a mimelib python project with no files)

Any suggestions on how to approach the ebuilds? I guess that I'm a bit over my head.

George

geowapa · n00b Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 50

I'm getting closer, but I'm really stumped on how to prep for the webapps. The app builds and installs, but it leaves everthing installed under the /var/tmp/portage/lurker-1.2/image/usr/share/webapps ... directory instead of copying things into the /usr/share/webapps directory where webapp-config can find it.

My src_compile section seems to work fine...

src_compile() {
econf \
--prefix=${INSTALLDIR} \
--with-mimelib-local \
|| die "configure failed"

emake || die "make failed"
}

I expect that somehow in the src_install section I need to move files into the correct locations for webapps-config. But a few hours of attempts is not getting me anywhere. I've looked at lots of ebuilds, and I have not found a good example that would work as a model.

The default install builds the following structures. (And I assume I need to move them somehow? I've included my assumption on preferred location ?)

/usr/local/lib/cgi-bin/*.cgi
- The CGIs which power lurker
- These must be placed such that the webserver can run them
( Move to /usr/share/webapps/lurker/1.2/hostroot/cgi-bin ... ??? )

/usr/local/var/www/lurker/*
- The lurker content which must be web accessible
- The subdirectories "attach, list, mbox, message, mindex,
search, splash, and thread" must all be writeable by
whatever user executes lurker.cgi
(Move to /usr/share/webapps/lurker/1.2/htdocs/* ???)

/usr/local/bin/lurker-*
- Command-line utilities for importing email, cleaning
cached web files, and interfacing with shell scripts
(Move to /usr/bin ???)

/usr/local/var/lib/lurker/*
- The lurker database directory where mail is imported to
- The directory and its contents must be writeable by the
user who runs lurker-index
- This must be readable by the user who runs lurker.cgi
(Not sure where to put application database for the vhost ???)

/usr/local/etc/lurker.conf
(Move to /usr/share/webapps/lurker/1.2/conf/lurker.conf ?)

Anyone have suggestions on how to accomplish this? every example does it a bit differently and so far all my attempts have failed. They all seem to leave /usr/share/webapps directory untouched.

Thanks,
George

geowapa · n00b Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 50

Ahhh... answering my own replies - er, talking to myself?

The lurker INSTALL file has some of the default directory names wong... Helps to use the right names.

Finally found a combination that seems to work. I'm all set on the htdocs, cgi-bin, conf file, bin files, etc. Still stumped on where to put the database for a virtual server setup. I assume that each server would need its own copy of /usr/local/var/lib/llurker ...

src_install () {

webapp_src_preinst

dodoc ChangeLog FAQ INSTALL NEWS README AUTHORS COPYING
rm -f ChangeLog FAQ INSTALL NEWS README AUTHORS COPYING

make install DESTDIR=${D} || die

# now, we have to turn this into something that webapp-config can use

mv ${D}/usr/local/lurker/lib/cgi-bin/*.cgi ${D}${MY_CGIBINDIR} || die
rm -rf ${D}/usr/local/lurker/lib/cgi-bin || die

mv ${D}/var/lib/www/lurker/* ${D}${MY_HTDOCSDIR} || die
rm -rf ${D}/var/lib/www/lurker || die

mv ${S}/lurker.conf ${D}${MY_SERVERCONFIGDIR} || die
rm -f ${S}/lurker.conf || die

webapp_serverowned ${MY_CGIBINDIR}
webapp_serverowned ${MY_HTDOCSDIR}

webapp_configfile lurker.conf

webapp_src_install
}

George

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

I understand this is more than a decade old topic.

However, nothing else on lurker the program could be found on the Forums, and it is not available in portage. (Lots on lurkers the non-poster members of the Forums...)

geowapa the OP is not a member anymore.

But this problem seems to me that it still applies, or am I mistaken.

webapp-config is still there, mimelib is still there available for separate download, et cetera.

Anybody got a working lurker ebuild somewhere?

Or any ideas about the installing of lurker in other ways?

Thanks!

steveL · Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:15 pm Post subject:

miroR: just write an ebuild. This was my first one (see posts 2 and 3 for more general info.)

I wrote that without knowing about /usr/portage/skel.ebuild so it's perfectly feasible to write ebuilds from just the manual.

#gentoo-dev-help on IRC: chat.freenode.net is full of people who will help; you'll also find knowledgeable users in #gentoo-chat quite a few of whom knock out ebuilds w/e they need to.

Best channels for actual tools: #bash (essential since all ebuilds are bash scriptlets) and ##workingset (toolchain, make, autotools, cmake et al.)

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

I'll first have a look at your first ebuild, for pure pleasure! :-)

And then I'll analyze your advice, which is kind as most of the times.
But you know I might not make it, unless I find a lot of time...
Also, other things may come in my way: such as my spurn that I developed of Firefox (for completely warranted reasons just one of many case studies here), and currently only able to use dillo and lynx...
I mean dillo and lynx is not sufficient for irc, I'm afraid...
Trying installing netsurf, failed...
So I'm battling of a few fronts to get that accomplished.
So... this might take me time.
Thanks, steveL!

steveL · Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:28 pm Post subject:

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

I've installed lurker. A working lurker.

Surely, the mimelib firtst, and only then lurker.

But none of it is in portage (lurker removed in 2009, see in /usr/portage/profiles I think). And it's so much nicer than mailman! Have a look at the Devuan mailing list:

https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/dng.en.html

And I have not made ebuilds. Not yet.

I will, when I learn the intricacies of portage, meaning, if I progress at the current pace, in a few yrs ;-)

God! How long this took me! But ennough talk.

The method used, is my no-portage method, for now. Analyze and you'll see why: already complex by itself.

Now I go a little cryptic (here, not in links), I'm afraid, but, from this point on, it's, maybe, which some prefer, relatively concise.

The url to get the sources:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libmimelib1-dev

https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libmimelib1c2a

https://packages.debian.org/jessie/lurker

E. g.:

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

EDIT 2015-09-04 11:51+02:00 : The automake, that uses Makefile.am to produce Makefile.in for make, needs tabs at beginning of it's non-commented-out lines.

However, the phpBB turns tha tabs that I paste, into 4 spaces. So the sums can not come out correctly. So for the paches below, consider that after '>' and '<'> come one tab before non-whitespace chars.

I have, however, sent email to lurker mailing list, seems dead, and to Terpstra and Muerer, the authors/maintainers of this package/in Debian.

Patience...
EDIT END

cat mimelib1_1.1.4_configure.in.patch

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

There should be a message that I just sent, at this address:

[Lurker-users] Installing Lurker on Gentoo
http://sourceforge.net/p/lurker/mailman/message/34469526/

Unfortunately, in my Dillo, and in my Lynx, I only see the title.

I have, however, received correct email with all the attachments, because I attached the patches I tried to post, unsuccessfully, in the previous to this post here on Gentoo Forums.

Don't know what it is. I really have a bad provider. Or it could be other things...

Good night for now.

Not yet... I tried:

http://sourceforge.net/p/lurker/mailman/attachment/20150917231359.GB16012%40g0n/1/

and I see the message, but I'm not sure if anyone that might be interested can get all the patches, if they are not subscribed.

Because I attached all correctly in Mutt:

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

I really did what I could, but it appears that for some reason, no attachment can be sent to appear publically on the SourceForge web.

Look up that, at the time of this posting of mine, there are exactly (3) messages, all mine at:

http://sourceforge.net/p/lurker/mailman/lurker-users/

See that the first is, as described in the previous post to this in thie Gentoo Forums topic, viewable only by clicking on the "Message as HTML" near 2015-09-17 23:12:37 (probably connected to it having attachments). that message also arrived non-PGP-verifiable (PGP bad) into subscribers mailboxes.

See that the second message arrived correctly in subscribers mailboxes (if they got from SF what I got), PGP-verifiable, and shows correctly at:

http://sourceforge.net/p/lurker/mailman/message/34470709/

And the third message, again, can only be seen by clicking on "Message as HTML" near

2015-09-18 10:41:30

And if you open that:

http://sourceforge.net/p/lurker/mailman/attachment/20150918104249.GC4794%40g0n/1/

you can also read my plea:

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

This post remains empty, till there somebody from among the Lurker Mailng List subscribers, hopefully, helps and finds a way to post on Lurker Mailing List those two patches, if anyone needs them.

If that should happen, this notice will be replaced by the, currently, missing part of the solution to installing the mimelib.

Thanks!

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

Once mimlib is installed, lurker can be installed.

I did something like the following:

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

# cat 01_bump_autotools.patch.diff

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

Let's suppose you keep these patch.diffs in the directory that holds the
aforementioned debian/ directory.

Now you, Gentooer or some other non-Debian, and non-Debian-derivative distro user, who might be following this method of mine, need to, after maybe backing up the quilt patches first, do:

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

Anyway, ith the method explained where I described how I installed mimelib, I have lurker, after the make, make install and make install-config, I have now lurker installed with these files:
# cat /var/log/no-portage/lurker-2.3_150917_0900.ls-1

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

WARNING: USE MY ADVICE BELOW AT YOUR OWN RISK!
I posted all this in good faith, but haven't had time to double-check it all.

Sorry if this is out of order, and if I should have given it in some previous post, but here is as good because someone who wants to install lurker will need to read all of this anyway: my confugure line I want to give you, because it's needed for better understanding of the remaining configurations, as well as for the help that I might need from the lurker-users.

I used these configure options:

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

Ah, but before the promised next post, I need to relate to the readers what I left out to report about.

I also needed to configure grsecurity's RBA policies for lurker.

I am however, find to leave those for later, as, sadly, most people don't use them... Newbies are, a little less I should hope to be the case here in Gentoo, advised to even install in their boxes the NSA-Linux, ehrmm I meant SELinux...
(
NSA SELinux Support???
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-984066.html
)

No, brothers, there is no privacy without grsecurity, and my dream is to learn installing and deploying grsecurity so welll to some day be able to teach newbies how to protect their boxes with it, and how to achieve true privacy. But even I have not reached there yet. Only much safer, much safer online than I used to be. An I do live under an obnoxious regime.

This was just a, necessary, digression. The promised next post, is, still, next.

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

I have succeeded in deploying Lurker, in my SOHO, and use a simple, very familiar progam in FOSS Linux circles, to get a "still" archive out of it.

Not saying the filnal step with that program that I intentionally leave you guessing, because I also leave the (few) readers of the lurker ML guessing.

Re: [Lurker-users] Installing Lurker on Gentoo
http://sourceforge.net/p/lurker/mailman/message/34505021/

(Because I want some feedback.)

I did some minor HTML editing around there (for now; the better way is to mess with xslt, but that is a little advanced yet.

And you can see what I did here:

iskon-t-com-miro-rovis
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cenz/iskon-t-com-miro-rovis/

Note, e.g. that I cite Gentoo a lot there in that intro page, and note that this link on Gentoo Forums:

Postfix smtp/TLS, Bkp/Cloning Mthd, Censorship/Intrusion
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-999436.html#7682770

has there the original email:

Re: Upozorenje T-Com administratora
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cenz/iskon-t-com-miro-rovis/message/20150113.171003.a35398a1.en.html

Now what will you think will have happened if all of a sudden you see none of that on that page on my NGO's www.CroatiaFidelis.hr website?

(remember that the regime got my entire 5 yrs work on Youtube, the account terminated on their own, and Google's own (the owner and buster of Youtube) falsity.

(
Really? The Surveillance Engine Terminated All My Videos
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=113059
)

I am a little worried, but I'm not relinquishing my freedom to think and to write.

Regards!

miroR · l33t Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 826

I reinstalled mimelib and lurker, you'll read why in a minute.

I currently (I said I use my Apache offline only yet) need it to retrieve a still mail archive from it for my (currently) on-a-hoster-server-posted pages, like in the link that I gave end of September 2015, a previous post above.

And when I want to post mails to web-pages, I select them with tab'ing them in my Mutt install, and save them (usually the selected threads) separately in a new maildir, from which I can then import them into lurker.

And that is what I did this afternoon. Actually I tried to do just that with the old install (that I haven't touched since about September 2015, half a year ago). Yesterday I tried. And I couldn't import them.

And the minute is over, and now you know why I went reinstalling my mimelib and my lurker: because I couldn't import those. It takes longer to explain why I couldn't import them, and I'll do it in a few minutes.

Just before I continue: my no-portage method works. The listing od the installed files works. Checking the sums works! So it's an verifiable install method. And since what I'll soon be posting below is another successful install of mimelib and lurker, you can figure out that also the removing, completely removing clean of my out-of-portage installed packages works impeccably (I will be back if there I later find issues, I am sincere and won't hold back if there be issues in the future, but you can stay pretty assured there will hardly be any.).

That's an important point, the above. This method is reliable, it seems to me. (And I still think figuring out how to do it in portage is much more work on top of all that I deployed above.)

For the reinstall, I used the posts in this topic that you are reading, and which is misnamed for my work that I posted in this topic...

Need help creating ebuild for "lurker"
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-228582.html#7712344

which is a title that I didn't choose. I wasn't even around back then in 2004. I came to Gentoo in 2008.

And so I currently in-my-offline-only-Apache need lurker to be able to retrieve a still mail archive from lurker deployed with my Apache for my hoster-server posted pages, like in the link that I gave end of September 2015.

And I selected some threads with tab'ing them in my Mutt, and saved them separately in a new maildir.

And that is what I did, first yesterday with the old install, without success, and now again this afternoon.

(Just to prevent misunderstanding, the solution that I found further below would have worked on the old install. There was nothing wrong with the old install)

Just here is how my tries went. It might be useful to a rare user who gets advanced enough to be able to use lurker for a reason like mine, or for its full purpose.

This is how the database looked like just after the install and the first fixing of the perms as I explains half a year ago, further above in this topic.