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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:32 pm    Post subject: Water filter Reply with quote

I'm trying to get a good water filter for my house. Like one of those brita ones you put in the fridge. Do those even work? Are their better ones?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zenlunatic,

Most of the nasties, you need to remove from drinking water are in solution. Filtration only removes particulates.

Water filters are a scam.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The charcoal filters such as in the brita do a fairly good job of removing bad smell and taste from well water in my experience. The city water where I live now is pretty decent strait from the faucet so I can't really speak for how well they remove chlorine odor.
As long as it's just taste your looking to improve and you realize they don't do anything about bacteria or chemicals I don't think they are a scam.

My brother has a pur filter pitcher and he has trouble with it making the water smell like eraser rubber. I've never had such a problem with the brita pitchers.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife and I have a PUR pitcher. Actually, it's less of a pitcher and more of a tub with a spout on it like one of those big thermos things that people put iced tea and kool aid into.

It gets rid of the chlorine flavor very well. NeddySeagoon, you would be correct if we were talking about microfilters, but the PUR and Brita ones are activated charcoal, which removes things in solution -- for example, the PUR Hiker water filter has a cartridge with a microfilter to remove particulates, and an iodine cartridge to act as a disinfectant. Then, completely separately, there is a charcoal filter that removes most of the nasty iodine flavor. Filters are NOT a scam.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I highly recomend a reverse osmosis system. The brita/pur filters are great if your water is drinkable to start with, but if it's real bad, RO is the way to go. They're not real cheap, I paid almost 500 dollars american for mine. I change the cartridge every year or so, and have clean water to drink/cook with. If you have a soft water service company like Culligan, they rent the RO systems. Better to own than rent, if you can afford it.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralphus Maximus wrote:
I highly recomend a reverse osmosis system. The brita/pur filters are great if your water is drinkable to start with, but if it's real bad, RO is the way to go. They're not real cheap, I paid almost 500 dollars american for mine. I change the cartridge every year or so, and have clean water to drink/cook with. If you have a soft water service company like Culligan, they rent the RO systems. Better to own than rent, if you can afford it.

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I reccomend living in a place with tap water that is pretty good. Barring that RO is a good, albeit a bit expensive choice. :)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well.. the kind of filter you should get depends on how bad your water is.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have some super-duper one built into our fridge, but the tap water is plenty clean here. Buying bottled water or whatever is just silly I think, unless you live somewhere where the water sucks.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought one of the britas that you put in your fridge.

Anyone know how to remove flouride from your water? The brita filters do not remove flouride. They say flouride is good for your teeth, but I don't believe I should be drinking the amounts of flouride that is in tap water. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, it seems weird to think that you need to use a filter for tap water.
Where I live our water comes straight from a reservoir in the mountains, no reused water or anything. Which is nice.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the problem with fluoridated water? I dont have it here but I have not heard of it causing health issues.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What is the problem with fluoridated water? I dont have it here but I have not heard of it causing health issues.


http://www.fluoridealert.org/
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What is the problem with fluoridated water? I dont have it here but I have not heard of it causing health issues.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fluorine is a VERY toxic chemical, even in small quantities. It won't kill, IIRC, but it's not exactly good for the body....

...Which is why it's so useful as an antiseptic - it kills bacteria just so!


Zenlunatic, I suggest you get a system that has UV cleaning - that will kill quite a few microbes.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shash,

Some dirt is good for you - it keeps the immune system on its toes.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shash wrote:
Fluorine is a VERY toxic chemical, even in small quantities. It won't kill, IIRC, but it's not exactly good for the body....

...Which is why it's so useful as an antiseptic - it kills bacteria just so!


Zenlunatic, I suggest you get a system that has UV cleaning - that will kill quite a few microbes.


Well I can't afford that right now. I'm going to get one of those reverse osmosis whole house cleaners when I get my own place, but for now maybe I'll just find some tablets that kills flouride.

Also, researching water filters i found out that bottled water is held to the same government standards as tap water.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apples and oranges are bad for you as well. All part of the post-ww2 commie alert. THEY ARE PART OF THE GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY! Say NO to FRUIT!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just use the tap water to do your dishes, laundry and shower. Then buy a simple drinking tap that you'll find in your local gym. These things are cheap and give you a liter of water per minute, I think. The filters are cheap and give you excellent drinking water. Why would you need gallons of drinking water each day through an expensive reverse osmosis unit?
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