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andrewski
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 Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:41 pm Post subject: XMMS alternatives? |
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I'm getting tired of XMMS and it's to the point that I either need to find another or I need to throw myself at the mercy of their mailing list to vent about the "bugs" I've found that are just plain annoying. (Oh wait, I did that and never got any replies... right.)
I actually don't have any problems with its sound output. My problems are different: still uses GTK 1, hardly supports ID3v2 MP3 tags, misses a lot of intuitive features on its own, the plugins that make up for that lack are not the best written, getting answers to any questions (plugin or otherwise) is quite a pain--despite the presence of a forum and a mailing list, etc....
So what are your alternatives? I'm looking for something that can play many file types (video too?), play them well, and that has a convenient not-KDE interface. (I'd prefer something not tied to Gnome either, but I'll take that if necessary.) Any tips would sure be appreciated! |
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squall14716
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| Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| BMP (beepmp.sourceforge.net) is an XMMS fork using GTK 2. |
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newbie_100
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| Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| squall14716 wrote: | | BMP (beepmp.sourceforge.net) is an XMMS fork using GTK 2. |
and it's in portage
| Code: | | emerge beep-media-player |
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andrewski
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| Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Yup, it's emerging right now so I can try it out! |
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Radea
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| Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Though not totally like XMMS, I like rhythmbox.
Its like iTunes, if you've ever used it. |
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uglyb0b
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If you'd really like to have it not tied to a specific Desktop Environment, I'd reccoment a curses-based frontend to music playing. I use MPC or cplay, depending on what mood I'm in.
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psyqil
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| Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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uglyb0b
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Oh man. Foobar2000 is the greatest music player ever coded. A bit shabby looking, but under the hood it's a fscking monster.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| newbie_100 wrote: | | squall14716 wrote: | | BMP (beepmp.sourceforge.net) is an XMMS fork using GTK 2. |
and it's in portage
| Code: | | emerge beep-media-player |
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Many bugs have been fixed (and a lot of other improvements made) since 0.9.6 was released. The latest code from cvs is a lot more stable than what's in portage. |
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Greven
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Music Player Deamon with Gnome Music Player Client is very close to FB2k. To get Music Player Deamon and Gnome Music Player Client do the following....
Add these to /etc/portage/package.keywords
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media-sound/gmpc ~x86
media-sound/mpd ~x86
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Then emerge mpd and gmpc.
Make sure you read the man to MPD.
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zez
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| I like using amaroK, which is also in portage. The only (almost fatal) downside is that it uses arts for output, which is quite nasty... |
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I like using Beep Media Player (the magical CVS version) because it looks better than XMMS since it's GTK2 and is lite. Good stuff.  |
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Zepp
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| beep media player closed when i went to add a directory to playlist odd :S. mpd is nice though for a xmms alternative. |
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soda_popstar
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| I love me some JuK. |
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fernandotcl
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| mpg123 is very good. There's also a mp3 plugin for mplayer. |
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Syzar
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| zez wrote: | | I like using amaroK, which is also in portage. The only (almost fatal) downside is that it uses arts for output, which is quite nasty... |
It supports gstreamer too. |
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psyqil
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| Greven wrote: | | Music Player Deamon with Gnome Music Player Client is very close to FB2k. |
 I don't know what foobie was like in v0.11, but mpd will still need some work...no APEv2, no mpc and I saw that you took care of getting somebody to implement replaygain, but only for oggs...guess I'll have to wait, but I like the client/server approach! | Quote: | | Make sure you read the man to MPD. |
Oops, I completely overread that sentence and recompiled it without droproot because it complained about this and that  But thank you for the recommendation, I'll keep an eye on it! |
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playfool
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| rhythmbox... |
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Greven
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I'm planning on making a Replaygain program with a gui but my C++ programming skills are lacking. But, thats why I have college and friends.
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Malakai
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I like beep media player as well. |
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pkdawson
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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I'll put in another vote for MPD. Wonderful as long as you only use MP3/OGG/FLAC/AAC. Since my music collection is entirely MP3, OGG, and a few FLACs, it's perfect for me 
You can grab my ebuild for kmp (a nice MPD client for KDE/Qt) here:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55499 |
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superjaded
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| Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Greven wrote: | | Music Player Deamon with Gnome Music Player Client is very close to FB2k. |
Replaygain? Mass tagging? Highly extensible plugin interface with amounts of plugins probably only second to Winamp and XMMS? Configurable playlist formatting?
MPD has none of these (and I would be wary of adding these types of features to a server/client model player, honestly), and its functionality is, IMO, what makes foobar2000 foobar2000, rather than its apparent general default look.
I could see MPD's use if I had a standalone media center running on my amp (which, if I ever had the time or the energy for it, would be really spiffy to implement), but on a desktop system with no real interoptability within my different systems.. it just seems a bit excessive.
As far as the topic at hand goes, amaroK is easily my favorite player at the moment, although I rarely ever use it since I can't really get used to KDE. I normally use Rhythmbox for my casual listening sessions. |
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Wi1d
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| Another vote for cplay & mpg123 |
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Fractal
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 3:44 am Post subject: |
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I love JuK, but I don't think it can play Internet Radio Streams.  |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| There are plenty of problems with BMP that will make it do funny things, however, it has never crashed on me while adding a directory of files to a playlist. Did you make sure to use the CVS version? |
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