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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:36 am    Post subject: Ultra 10 Video Reply with quote

I just got an Ultra 10. yay.

I have wanted to install gentoo on one of these babies for 2 years. Everything installed great until I tried to get xfree running.
I have no clue what video card it has in it. I am using the video off the mobo. Please help.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you get specs from an old vendor sheet?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't even know where to find an old vendor sheet for this box. Any suggestions??

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That may be more complicated. Is that a Sun Ultra 10 Workstation?

I'd say start on the Sun website, look for an archive section. I'll take a peek and see what i can dig up.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an ATI Rage Pro I think.

I've got it running using X.org just fine.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's one i found.

Video: PGX On Board HD15 (VGA Connector)

Looks like we're going to need to know the proc speed.

OK, sun IS pretty helpful -> http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Systems/U10/spec.html

Now you just got to find the exact model.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried dmesg (the command). It should tell you what it sees.
For example, with kernel 2.6.6, here's what an Elite looks like---

Code:

ffb: AFB at 000001fc00000000 type 39 DAC 10


Also, if you just start {xfree,xorg} even if you don't know what driver to use,
its log file at /var/log/X....log should tell you everything it sees in a [--] line:
here's what xorg-x11 says about that same Elite (afb):

Code:

(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,0), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(--) SBUS:(0xf006e1a0) Sun Elite3D at /SUNW,afb@1e,0
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are


These examples are taken from a U60, but you should see something similar from
a U10.

(I know that on a U10 you might have PGX24, mach64, Creator, Elite, and maybe others.)

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I did dmesg and found this:

atyfb: 3D RAGE PRO (PQFP, PCI)....
fb0: ATY Mach64 frame buffer device on PCi

but now when I configure X i am getting Mouse errors what am I supposed to select from the menu when I need to configure my mouse?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a sunmouse and kernel 2.4.x, the xorg.conf (or XF86Config) file should look something like this:

Code:

Section "InputDevice"
  Identifier  "Mouse0"
  Driver      "mouse"
  Option      "Protocol" "MouseSystems"
  Option      "Device" "/dev/sunmouse"
  Option        "Emulate3Buttons"       "false"
EndSection


If the kernel is 2.6.x, the mouse will look something like this:

Code:

Section "InputDevice"
  Identifier  "Mouse0"
  Driver      "mouse"
#  Option      "Protocol" "MouseSystems"
#  Option      "Device" "/dev/sunmouse"
  Option      "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
  Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
  Option        "Emulate3Buttons"       "false"
EndSection

(commented lines indicate change between kernels).

I'm afraid I don't know how the menu-driven configure programs for X work,
but you should end up with something like one of the examples above for a
sun mouse.

There are people here who can help you with your specific question, though, if this information is not sufficient.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got a pretty nice ultra 10 here (except for the cpu):
it has an onboard ati rage pro (works with the mach64 driver in the kernel and X, but i don't get 3d acceleration yet) with a vga connector and an additional creator3d (should work with the ffb/sunffb drivers) in the sbus slot with a sun13w3 connector.
it's really a pity you can't have 2 frambuffers loaded at boot time, so you should choose only one driver in the kernel setup (the mach64 masks out the ffb)
what really sucks here is that the 2.6 drm module loads fine, but i don't get a working dri device
even manually creating /dev/dri/card0 did nothing
according to https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19776, the X.org driver seems to be ready at last, but it's not worth much if the drm module is broken... :cry:
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