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Curious
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 Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 4:21 am Post subject: Something rotten in Denmark... |
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Something really weird is going on at the moment. If I try and browse to forums.gentoo.org, I get a Topclicks.net page with a title of "Gentoo.Org". If I access the forum by I.P., it works fine.
Talking with sev, this doesn't seem to happen to him. Help me! I am confused!
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| That almost sounds like some sort of spyware that is intercepting your browser's requests. This isn't on a Windows box is it? |
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Curious
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Yeah, that was my first thought. It's a horrible Win2K box that I use for testing at work. I'm currently tearing it apart, looking for Evil (TM).
But then I thought, Pretty poorly coded - seeing as it produces a set of links that go nowhere. And for that matter, that only affects forums.gentoo.org, and not any other webpage...
On a hunch I just did something - trying to resolve forums.gentoo.org on this box gives "64.246.28.230", while the actual IP of the forums is "66.250.107.251".
It looks like either my company, or Gentoo.org is looking down the barrel of a dns misconfiguration / hijack.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Curious wrote: | On a hunch I just did something - trying to resolve forums.gentoo.org on this box gives "64.246.28.230", while the actual IP of the forums is "66.250.107.251".
It looks like either my company, or Gentoo.org is looking down the barrel of a dns misconfiguration / hijack. |
Can you try accessing the forums from another box on your corporate LAN? My guess is you've simply got some nasty spyware installed. I double-checked the name servers for *.gentoo.org and all appears to be well there, so I'd say this is a problem on your end somewhere.
If you continue to have problems, send me a PM and I'll help you track the issue down. (just in case this problem exists at a higher level.)
Also, if anyone else notices similar behavior, please send me a PM immediately.
--kurt
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Have you tried running Adaware on that machine? I know for a fact that there are quite a few spyware programs that can take over your browser completely like that, especially if it's IE. I imagine it's possible for the stuff to work at a lower level too though and actually sit on top of the TCP/IP stack stealing traffic from other sites. What a load of garbage...I can't believe that kind of thing isn't illegal. |
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Curious
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Well, this morning, after running Adaware on it, things seem to have improved. The weird thing is, Adaware only found one suspicious item - a key for an "Alexa" extension in IE.
How IE would affect name resolution, I have no idea.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Curious wrote: | | How IE would affect name resolution, I have no idea. |
The malware (Alexa, in this case) sits between IE and the part of the OS that handles name resolution. IE hands off a request to resolve "forums.gentoo.org" to an IP address -- Alexa intercepts that request and substitutes a bogus IP for the real one, hands it back to IE and IE happily sends you to the wrong site.
And no, this isn't IE's fault -- this could happen to any browser that gets the right kind of malware installed.
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| klieber wrote: | | sits between IE and the part of the OS that handles name resolution. |
Fair enough. The part that puzzled me was that it was deeply enough rooted to change the resolution on the command line using ping and nslookup. I guess they do have runtime loadable kernel modules after all. 
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| klieber wrote: | | And no, this isn't IE's fault -- this could happen to any browser that gets the right kind of malware installed. |
Another weird thing is that the key was in IE registry...
But I only use Mozilla to browse on this machine.
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| Curious wrote: | | klieber wrote: | | And no, this isn't IE's fault -- this could happen to any browser that gets the right kind of malware installed. |
Another weird thing is that the key was in IE registry...
But I only use Mozilla to browse on this machine.
-- Curious |
I think that many Windows-based programs use IE to provide various functions (rendering, communication, etc.) for them. That includes spyware, so if Alexa was installed with some other software on the computer it could be using IE for some reason. It's also possible that this isn't really the source of the problem and that there is some other spyware program that Adaware doesn't have in its database.
The reason I brought up IE is just that it seems more of these malicious programs are targeted at doing things to it rather than the entire Windows installation including all browsers. I've barely seen any of these programs doing anything to Mozilla on Win2k but I have non-computer savvy friends whose IE has been so totally co-opted that it is a nightmare to use. |
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The wheel of Ka spins onwards, and further weirdness comes to light.
This happened to me again yesterday, and not just on forums.gentoo.org, but a variety of sites. Up came Ad-Aware, it showed nothing. I run a web-proxy on my machine to bypass the IE only proxy here, so I was wondering if that was the cause. Didn't appear to be so.
Grabbed a laptop out of my case ( this one running BeOS ) and tried to access the forums - it happened again. In NetPositive, on BeOS. DNS is still resolving correctly, so I go and talk to another engineer - it turns out that there have been unconfirmed reports of the same thing from people all over the company, who all share this common HTTP proxy, but everyone in tech had dismissed it as user error.
Now I need to find a way to explain this to the people at the Melbourne NOC that there might be something fishy about our Proxy. This will be entertaining.
-- Curious
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absinthe
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I don't see why it's necessary to pick on Denmark here. The Danish are our friends. 
Speaking of danish, I could murder a pastry right now... |
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