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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 7:43 pm    Post subject: The long-awaited Vera fonts are out!!! Reply with quote

See how nice-looking these fonts are : get them from

http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/bitstream-vera/1.10/

Bitstream and Gnome dudes : thanks a lot for these high-quality open-source fonts! :)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seems they changed the URL to :

http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/ttf-bitstream-vera/1.10/
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any shots?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zenz wrote:
Any shots?


anything special you want to see displayed with these new wonder fonts ?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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anything special you want to see displayed with these new wonder fonts ?


Seems like I'm the only one who is ignornant of the wonderfulness of these fonts :oops:

Can you maybe make a screenshot of the fonts in action? Preferably in their intended use (eg, for X-terms, etc) maybe?

Thanks:)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's just see Freetype 2.1.4 (free font hinter) in Epiphany 0.5.0 on OSNEWS.

[img:6b9fe405f0]http://userportal.iha.dk/~01876/vera.png[/img:6b9fe405f0]
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn that looks good!
thx Lovechild for the shot :o
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hrmmm the shot looks a bit blurry here - the fonts a very shape here. But I still need to do a bit of tinkering to find the optimal settings.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also running Freetype 1.2.4 - as of last night. Now that we have a nice shot, let me name a couple of things I think need fixing:

(In the "Why Linux is Not..." box)

- "The Lenghty": the "e"s are too close to "h" and "L". This seems to be a problem with the "e" in general.

- "yourself": too much space between "y" and "o", and not enough between "o" and "u".

- bold "e"s look too heavy.

And so on and so forth. Nice fonts are certainly here, but perfection isn't. Having 4 versions of 4 programs, 5+ configuration files, 3+ font types and more isn't helping the situation. But things are getting better.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My fonts looked similar to Lovechilds until I turned back on font autohinting which has been further refined in the latest Freetype version 2.1.4. This has given me a font which I'm pretty much happy with.

I think these fonts have been designed with the new freetype without the bytecode interpreter on.

I don't have any webspace however maybe someone who has similar settings to mine can put some piccies up of this alternative way of rendering the font?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I snagged the beta fonts during the short time that they were available. For the last several weeks, I've been checking the site every day for the final release. They must have showed up while I was at work today. Thanks for the heads up!

Gotta walk the dogs first, but I'll be replacing the betas shortly.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's really interesting for all the GNUs in you is that these fonts are perhaps the first open-source ones... That's what makes these fonts special :)

You can see their generous copyright at http://www.gnome.org/fonts/

It is some kind of a truly generous donation to the Gnome project by Bitstream.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is an ebuild:

EDIT: I've removed the ebuild code because an updated version is on bugzilla.

I've submitted it as bug #19446.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take it these fonts are more than just a look? Becuase they look a lot like Verdana... which isnt anything special; Just a normal font. What am I missing?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

port001 wrote:
I take it these fonts are more than just a look? Becuase they look a lot like Verdana... which isnt anything special; Just a normal font. What am I missing?


They're sorta-GPLed fonts, as opposed to the MS core fonts which are just OK to redistribute, not modify. And even then, only as unmodified EXE files.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apps (Galeon 1.3.3, Gaim 0.61, Gedit 2.2.1) using Vera fonts.
Latest freetype.
Bytecode.

[img:4b413ffa08]http://www.relaxz.net/archives/fonts-tmp.png[/img:4b413ffa08]

offtopic: should I put thumbnail with link to full screenshot or just the full screenshot like I did now in my future posts?

Edit:

Here is a screenshot with autohinter:

[img:4b413ffa08]http://www.relaxz.net/archives/fonts-tmp-2.png[/img:4b413ffa08]


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yinchie: That looks nice, is that Bytecode or Autohinter? Or something else?

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offtopic: should I put thumbnail with link to full screenshot or just the full screenshot like I did now in my future posts?
This is fine to me, but people with low bandwith may not think so.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an interesting question destined to make me look like a fool... I've seen many people post ebuilds in the forums... How do I make use of them?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Herodot wrote:
Yinchie: That looks nice, is that Bytecode or Autohinter? Or something else?


Bytecode if i am right, I have cjk in my USE flags.

Code:

  10 Apr 2003; foser <foser@gentoo.org> freetype-2.1.4.ebuild :
  Changed bytecode to be only disabled when prebuilt in USE

  09 Apr 2003; foser <foser@gentoo.org> freetype-2.1.4.ebuild :
  New version, disabled smooth patch, cause it doesn't seem to work
  Disabled bytcode interpreter for anything but cjk use flag, using
  the autohinter instead as suggested by the freetype team.
  Added zlib use flag
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet another interesting question... why does your gimp not look like mine? yours is much prettier.. my icons are b&w... and ugly.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yinchie: Yes, that should enable Bytecode, I agree.

metalhedd: How did you get 700+ posts? ;-) The Gimp is v1.3, it comes in technicolor.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harsh dude, harsh... I obviously got 700+ Posts because I'm such a 1337 hAx0R.

lol, I just never use the gimp.. Only when absolutely necessary... it's really nice, but confuses the piss out of my sometimes, so i try to avoid it.

as for the ebuild thing.. I dunno... of all the ebuilds that I've seen posted here, There's never been one I've felt the need to try... and I've never seen any documentation on how to add your own ebuilds. I guess just put it in a file with the correct name in the correct category?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How you came to be l33t is beyond my knowledge.

Emerge the gimp-1.3, the masked one.
select and paste the ebuilds into favorite editor.
save as name-version.ebuild into /usr/local/portage/right-directory
then it's just emerge name-of-ebuild

sortof...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're lucky i'm such an easy going guy or I would have taken offense to that :)

we're all l33t in our own ways, Mine just doesn't happen to portage or the gimp... I've successfully configured a whole lot of stuff on several different systems in my 1 year with gentoo... I can practically write an XF86Config from scratch.. now that's l33t ;)

but serisously, thank you for your kind words of encouragement.
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