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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 3:29 am    Post subject: how long did kde3 take for your to compile? Reply with quote

It's been going on for about 10+ hours so far (from vanilla system, the first thing i did was "emerge kde")

I've got a K6-II 450 and 256MB ram.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 3:40 am    Post subject: Could take some time.. Reply with quote

Assuming "emerge kde" was the first things you typed (or close to it), it's probably going to take quite a while. If you haven't changed your USE variable and it still has it's default settings there are many other things that are going to be pulled in. Many, many things.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh joy... what should I have done with the USE variables?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 9:12 pm    Post subject: USE variables (was how long to compile) Reply with quote

niyogi wrote:
oh joy... what should I have done with the USE variables?

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I think I've just discovered the same problem. What are all these use variables? Is there some docuumentation I've missed that will enable me to decide what is really necessary. I've got a base system running today after two overnight runs, then I emerged Apache, PHP and MySQL which seems to have required a lot of X that I'm sure isn't needed for a lightweight webserver. :oops:
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hopefully this forum will serve as a documentation base by itself.

i still don't know how to use the USE flag although with enough snooping and investigation, i'll find out.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should use --pretend to see all the junk that your USE flags are gonna dump in with it b4 compiling something big liek that
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took my box a hair under 24 hours to compile KDE (2.2.2), I suspect kde 3 won't be much diffrent.

after completing the gentoo install the very first thing I did after reboot was "emerge kde" so it had to compile/install X as well.

Before the build was available I compiled and installed all the kde 3 BETA RC1 packages by hand, that took a full weekend. Mainly because it was not automatic. It's pretty nice.

The box is as follows
P2-400
128MB RAM
8.4GB hard drive
other less important devices (CD-ROM, floppy) when guaging overall speed.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2002 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't time it... started it about 2 hours prior to going to bed, when I woke up it was all compiled/installed, so less than 10 hours (Pentium IV 1.8 ghz).
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2002 8:22 pm    Post subject: Athlon XP 1700+ Compile time.. Reply with quote

Whew. I thought I was crazy! I followed the Desktop Doc's to the T and it took me about 5 1/2 hours to compile...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2002 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wonder if there's *any* way for the emerge feature to have a constantly updated (rough) ETA by looking at your processor speed and memory...

hmm... perhaps a possible feature?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The merge time can be easily measured this way:
Code:
# date >> comptime; emerge whatever; date >> comptime
# cat comptime

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fghellar wrote:
The merge time can be easily measured this way:
Code:
# date >> comptime; emerge whatever; date >> comptime
# cat comptime

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Better yet:
Code:
time emerge whatever

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nitro wrote:
Better yet:
Code:
time emerge whatever

Ok, poit for you... :) But this won't work for emerge system... :)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fghellar wrote:
nitro wrote:
Better yet:
Code:
time emerge whatever

Ok, poit for you... :) But this won't work for emerge system... :)


Why not?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Err... Well... Two points for you... I just tried it and it does indeed work... :)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what i was thinking was that users can figure out how long it would take for an emerge command *before* they go along and do it...

kopete took longer than i expected to emerge
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was hoping you were going to reply with a quote of my message so it would be a quote of a quote of a quote. :)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nitro wrote:
fghellar wrote:
nitro wrote:
Better yet:
Code:
time emerge whatever

Ok, poit for you... :) But this won't work for emerge system... :)


Why not?


you mean like this? :lol:
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 12:04 am    Post subject: what does it mean when you type "time emerge whatever&q Reply with quote

What do the results of "time emerge whatever" mean. You get

real blah
user blah
sys blah

What does each of these represent.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: what does it mean when you type "time emerge whatev Reply with quote

garrontmo wrote:
What do the results of "time emerge whatever" mean. You get

real blah
user blah
sys blah

What does each of these represent.

Thanks,
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"real" is wall clock time. It's the one you're usually interested in. (By "wall clock" I mean the same kind of time you go to lunch by. If it took an hour, it will say 60m0.000s (60 minutes 0.000 seconds). (That's if it took exactly an hour.

"user" is CPU time spent in the "user" state (i.e., not in the kernel).
"sys" is CPU time spent in the kernel.

The names are slightly misleading: "user" is not your time and "sys" the system's time -- all processes use both kinds.

A typical example of system time would be copying a file -- only the kernel is allowed to play with real hardware, so a significant fraction of the time in something like "cp a /tmp/a" is spent in kernel mode, doing the I/O. This will show up as a small amount of "user" time, and a large amount of "sys" time.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pr0vidence wrote:
nitro wrote:
fghellar wrote:
nitro wrote:
Better yet:
Code:
time emerge whatever

Ok, poit for you... :) But this won't work for emerge system... :)


Why not?


you mean like this? :lol:


I think that's what he meant.

So emerge kde will go for X too, eh? Cool. About the USE var, what to do?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 4:25 am    Post subject: not more than ~12hrs for KDE, but worth it Reply with quote

I got used to gnome on debian -- I had no idea what the K guys were doing. But the gnome install (after about 10 hours of X compile) was too fast, so I hit KDE as well.

After some broken dependencies and a rebuild of KDEBase (because I'm an idiot), I got KDE up and running.

It's absolutely stunning. I'm blown away. Gentoo + KDE is the best system I've ever seen. AC/D
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: not more than ~12hrs for KDE, but worth it Reply with quote

A.C. wrote:
I got used to gnome on debian -- I had no idea what the K guys were doing. But the gnome install (after about 10 hours of X compile) was too fast....


I'm guessing you were being sarcastic with this comment :D

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 5:20 pm    Post subject: a little while Reply with quote

it took me about 14-16 hrs to compile all of KDE3. My system is:

Celeron 500
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2002 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good while on my 533mhz celeron with 192meg ram:

Code:
>>> Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
>>> kde-base/kde-3.0 merged.

 * Regenerating GNU info directory index...
 * Processed 57 info files.
 * IMPORTANT: 1 config files in /etc need updating.
 * IMPORTANT: 2 config files in /usr/kde/3/share/config need updating.
 * Type emerge --help config to learn how to update config files.


real    537m50.298s
user    386m6.310s
sys     49m38.330s

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