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| I would like to my gentoo to boot 10-40% faster |
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phraktle
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 Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 1:32 am Post subject: fast booting with serel |
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hi,
i came across a very nice tool, called serel (http://www.fastboot.org/), that makes services start up in parallel.. it improves boot time pretty well (10-40% for services)... would gentoo consider making this part of the default layout? after all, gentoo is a cutting edge metadistro, or whatever 
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alec
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 3:38 am Post subject: Hah! |
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Hah! Only those that don't have monsterous uptimes need to boot more quickly!
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TheWart
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Hah! Only those that don't have monsterous uptimes need to boot more quickly!
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Ahh, how true!
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BradN
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| This looks like it would be an interesting improvement... I'm not a huge fan of slow boot times, so it would definitely be worth considering. |
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DArtagnan
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 8:39 am Post subject: |
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It really improves the boot proccess?
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Scandium
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 11:19 am Post subject: |
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I believe it improves boot time but does this tool sometimes make errors ?
For example sometimes you start a service which depends on another one and how does this program know that it isn't allowed to start service B before service A ? I doubt it has a database with all daemons out there  |
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pjp
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| 3 ppl don't want to boot faster... thats hilarious. If I boot once every 3 years, I still want it to be as fast as possible. Provided no instability issues are introduced. |
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BradN
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| Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, it just depends if it can be made to fit in with the way the current rc management stuff. If it doesn't cause problems, there's really no reason not to do it. |
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| First of all, my Gentoo Box boots lightning fast. Second, it's on constantly - so booting is really not an issue:) |
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c_kuzmanic
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| oops forgot to log-in on previous post:) |
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chadh
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Don't forget the ever-growing number of laptop users and embedded boxes out there. Any boot speedup is greatly appreciated.
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JohnnyGTO
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| kanuslupus wrote: | | ... Provided no instability issues are introduced. |
Thats probably why they voted no. |
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sena
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 4:38 am Post subject: |
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I sure agree that this could be part of Gentoo (as it is a cutting edge whatever so on)...
But, at least until it gives proofs of working fine, withouth any instability issues, it should never be part of the default installation, only as an optional package...
Regards, sena.
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TheWart
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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has anyone actually tried it out (from these forums i mean)?
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febisfebi
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| Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| Scandium wrote: | | I doubt it has a database with all daemons out there |
apparently it has a start
| Quote: | | dependency information for 50+ common services |
thats what it said on the website under features[/quote] |
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lx
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| Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Maybe I will try it sometime, but a few seconds improvement in start-up time ain't that much I need some time too make coffee in the morning, only shutdown in the evening, because I can't sleep with the noise from the fans and ofcourse the powersaving, but one startup and shutdown a day doesn't need a few seconds improvement.
Well every improvement is welcome, lX
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Scandium
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| Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 10:39 am Post subject: |
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| febisfebi wrote: | | Scandium wrote: | | I doubt it has a database with all daemons out there |
apparently it has a start
| Quote: | | dependency information for 50+ common services |
thats what it said on the website under features |
Well, if this program has an option to modify service starts etc. so if you use a daemon _not_ known by the program that you can pull it before/after the service you like (and it seems that you can) I say yes to this program, too |
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JefP@@
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| Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| chadh wrote: | | Don't forget the ever-growing number of laptop users and embedded boxes out there. Any boot speedup is greatly appreciated. |
Strong argument, I'd say.
No complaints regarding boot speed, though (at the moment :p), trying to cut in most services I don't use anyway ...
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Lush
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| Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Hah! |
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| alec wrote: | Hah! Only those that don't have monsterous uptimes need to boot more quickly!
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Unfortunately I use my system for gaming also which means rebooting into Win98 a lot. I still wouldn't bother with this software as Gentoo only takes about 10 seconds to boot on my computer. |
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gsfgf
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2002 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| My power's pretty unreliable. So i wouldn't mind it, but i probobly won't fool w/ it unless the power gets really bad. |
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Cr0t
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2002 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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booting faster... Why do u even turn your computer off????
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wildcard
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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that once a month i reboot my pc i want it to break 25 seconds
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syadnom
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| Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:10 am Post subject: how about an ebuild, i can't get serel or redland to make |
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| how about an ebuild, i can't get serel or redland to make. |
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uncle_meat
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| Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2003 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| I'll stay away from this until it's proven. My system boots fast enough already. |
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shm
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| Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Scandium wrote: | I believe it improves boot time but does this tool sometimes make errors ?
For example sometimes you start a service which depends on another one and how does this program know that it isn't allowed to start service B before service A ? I doubt it has a database with all daemons out there |
It has a dependency system.
http://www.fastboot.org/doc/serel-overview/dependencies.html |
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