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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:22 pm    Post subject: Political statements in avatars Reply with quote

Mod Edit: split from this topic - tomk.

@ stonent: i would appreciate no political statements here (cf your avatar); this is simply the wrong place.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

_savage wrote:
@ stonent: i would appreciate no political statements here; this is simply the wrong place.

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I made none.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stonent wrote:
I made none.


i would say that your avatar is one.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

_savage wrote:
@ stonent: i would appreciate no political statements here (cf your avatar); this is simply the wrong place.

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I believe this is also the wrong place for seafood statements.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guys, while i respect and tolerate your political opinion, i still think this is the wrong place to express it in any way here. this is a PPC/Linux forum, hence you should be considerate and restrict your postings to topic related comments. i am sure we all would appreciate that.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our forum icons appear in every section of the gentoo forums that we post in, if you have a problem take it to otw.

Commenting on it in a thread in the PPC forum is not the right place.

You wrote:
restrict your postings to topic related comments.


My postings were on topic until now. Therefore I'm going to ask that a moderator split this thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as you don't violate the general guidelines or the OTW guidelines then political statements are OK as avatars.

As long are you are not being offensive (i.e. if someone had the Swastika as an avatar, it would be a different issue), then stonent's avatar is allowed, just as much as if you had a vote Kerry avatar.

Obviously it would be different if someone posted "vote Bush/Kerry" in a support thread, but nobody has done that, and poitical avatars are allowed as long as they are in line with the guidelines.

Hope that clears things up a bit.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If people are allowed to make political statements in their sigs, why not their avatars? I don't see any real difference..

*googles up anarchy symbol for avatar*
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imek wrote:
If people are allowed to make political statements in their sigs, why not their avatars? I don't see any real difference..


agreed
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

frankly, i wasn't expecting this to be such a big issue. i was simply surprised to be flashed by an avatar expressing some random person's political opinion in a linux forum. after all, these are linux related forums. if you feel like making political statements, go join the related forums.

i won't waste any more time argueing about that here, i have better things to do.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont really see a problem with it stonent is not going to influence my vote by having that as his avatar. May as well go say well lets go make bumper stickers that are political statements be outlawed yep.

This thread makes me discusted.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh how ridiculous. If it was for Kerry or some other liberal propaganda it would be ok with everyone.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paranode wrote:
Oh how ridiculous. If it was for Kerry or some other liberal propaganda it would be ok with everyone.


I was waiting for someone to say that. The thing is, you're probably right...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I have to say that I despise the Bush/Cheney avatar, but I despise even more someone's right to express themselves being infringed upon. They have the right to have that avatar, just as I have the right not to like it, ignore it and get on with my life. :P

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow. Just wow.

I'm amazed.


I went to the grocery store the other day and I was just minding my own business shopping for groceries. All of a sudden BAM there is this lady wearing a support President Bush shirt. I almost had to go up to her and ask her to remove said article of clothing because it infringed upon my rights as a fellow shopper.

Instead I took it to the next level and went to the customer service counter and asked to speak with a manager. I asked the manager to kindly remove the lady from the premesis because she was infringing upon my rights as a shopper. He looked at my incredulously and said that while he respected my opinion he thought that my methods were a little odd and he would be unable to help me.

So I decided to go to the Tshirt manufacture and BOYCOTT their tshirts. It turns out that the company had a really cool support Mickey Mouse for President tshirt that I just couldn't pass up. Now I am out of options and looking for somebody to complain to.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best would be just to no allow sigs or avatars at all, for anyone, as by and large, they are stupid, worthless, bandwidth wasting annoyances.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok nevermind :)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

something tells me he was being ironic/sarcastic...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok then no cartoon opinions in avatars either _savage in fact no opinions on anything at all in sigs or avatars, nothing that is unique



BULLSHIT

as long as it's not explicitly offensive i dont care (a porn avatar at work is hard to explain to PHB's)


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imek wrote:
something tells me he was being ironic/sarcastic...

Hope so :D
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paranode wrote:
Imek wrote:
something tells me he was being ironic/sarcastic...

Hope so :D
It was an exaggeration to prove a point about the original complaint.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

piffle wrote:
Best would be just to no allow sigs or avatars at all, for anyone, as by and large, they are stupid, worthless, bandwidth wasting annoyances.


i think sigs and avatars are neat! they tell something about the person like clothes and hairstyle in real life.

i just wonder if .....

paranode wrote:
Oh how ridiculous. If it was for Kerry or some other liberal propaganda it would be ok with everyone.


is a little paranoid!? :wink:

:mrgreen:
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

piffle wrote:
Best would be just to no allow sigs or avatars at all, for anyone, as by and large, they are stupid, worthless, bandwidth wasting annoyances.

Piffle is just mad because he is on an old 28k connection :wink:
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really need your head examined to support Bush but i agree that people should be allowed to make their political statements.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ravingsanity wrote:
Personally, I have to say that I despise the Bush/Cheney avatar, but I despise even more someone's right to express themselves being infringed upon. They have the right to have that avatar, just as I have the right not to like it, ignore it and get on with my life. :P

It's not a big deal. FIDO (F**k It, Drive On).


I agree that its fine to have an avatar that expresses a political viewpoint. With that said, I am peeved when people complain about rights being infringed on when their aren't being infringed on. The constitution only says that the government can't control/censor things you say (unless it threatans the rights of others). Gentoo is in no way the government, and therfore if they chose to censor something it would in no way infringe on anyone's rights.
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