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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:09 am    Post subject: Metisse Reply with quote

Just saw it on slashdot. It's kinda like Sun's Looking Glass project. Take a look at these screenies.

Ok, I want it :P
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just saw that myself and thinking about trying it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That page is loading soooo slow. Stupid slashdot!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just tried it. Couldn't get it to start. Kept segfaulting.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone gets this running, I'd love a little howto..

Compile was painless, then I made a metisse script in my /etc/X11/Sessions with

#!/bin/sh
Xwnc -geometry 1024x768 :1
metisse-start-fvwm

in it and changed my rc.conf, but when I tried startx, I just got a black screen. ctrl-alt-backspace showed me this :

Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
(II) Initializing extension GLX

in my logs. Is my problem just a faulty GLX, or am I doing something else wrong in the install? I'd really like to mess around with this. :D
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I noticed that meltisse-start-fvwm was trying to connect to :1 instead of :0 so that might be why it isn't working for you. When I changed the script to connect to :0 it just crashed on me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, my brain seems to have collapsed unded its own weight as i am unable to find this "Xwnc" command anywhere. I think i must have somehow messed a step in the installation. All i have done is the following, all as root and all in the directory in which i unpacked the metisse and nucleo tarballs...

Code:

./configure
make
make install


But then i am unable to find the Xwnc command to run it!? Some stuff has been installed into the /usr/local but can someone please help me out a little, i'm stumped.

Thanx.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: Metisse Reply with quote

Uranus wrote:
Just saw it on slashdot. It's kinda like Sun's Looking Glass project. Take a look at these screenies.

Ok, I want it :P


It's pretty awesome, luckily I know fvwm well so I'm porting my theme over :)

Current progress: http://dev.gentoo.org/~taviso/metisse.png

Still working on it, but it's coming on nicely, the scale window feature rocks :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

EDIT2 - WOW!!!!

That has to be the easiest program to install and run, for its relative complexity - copy/pasted both commands and it just popped up almost instantly.

I am a complete newbie on these minamalist WMs - Not been weened from KDE yet :oops: - So could someone post a config/link for tutorial etc? I can pic kup the Metisse bit, just not the FVWM bit....

EDIT3 - WOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just playing - This is fkin amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!
So smooth - total moving transparency and user settable transparency at any time - you can rotate, scale, and mirror/flip windows in _realtime_ and use them with the mouse and everything, at anytime!!!!!!



Windows - eat your heart out............

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as nice as this looks, i cannot imagine a real practical use for this...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so can anyone ebuild this?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As nice as it looks, I also miss the practical use for it. It may be a nice thing to play with, but as a working environment?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it support anything other than fvwm?


I like the idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote I also miss the practical use for it.][/quote]

That's right - piss all over my bonfire :(

It may not be exceedingly useful, but it's cool and there are some uses - Transparently playing a movie over the top of surfing the internet or writing a document. You can also just angle the movie and angle the other app opposite.

Sounds reasonable to me....

Just a note - I can't get KMail to run - it just segfaults

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thing is very much droolable and a cool show-off for all your Windows-friends. :) Ok, at least for me Metisse seems to be a bit sluggish here and there, but yes, I do realize it still very experimental. But a very promising project! Way to go! Am gonna play with this eye-candy. :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only get a blank whitish screen. Xwnc logs:

Code:
_XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener
_XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
_XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for inet
 
Fatal server error:
Failed to establish all listening sockets


Any ideas?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could somebody who's gotten it working give a brief howto? I'm not sure where to put the commands - in .xinitrc? In an xterm? On the console? Right now I've gotten Xwnc to start without errors and metisse to connect, but then it fails with the following:

Code:
glWindow_GLX : No suitable visual


Actually, it doesn't fail persay, in fact fvwmi is running but I've got nothing on my screen but borderless xterms... any pointers?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkalderash wrote:
Could somebody who's gotten it working give a brief howto? I'm not sure where to put the commands - in .xinitrc? In an xterm? On the console? Right now I've gotten Xwnc to start without errors and metisse to connect, but then it fails with the following:

Code:
glWindow_GLX : No suitable visual


Actually, it doesn't fail persay, in fact fvwmi is running but I've got nothing on my screen but borderless xterms... any pointers?

yeah please someone post a howto... i'm having troubles with getting this to work =\
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, getting this message in Xwnc now

AUDIT: Wed Jun 30 22:04:37 2004: 23578 Xwnc: client 1 rejected from IP 127.0.0.1 port 3279

I don't want rejection! Accept! Accept!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try the tips about xauth or just run Xwnc with "-ac" - at least, that made metisse not crash, even if it's still doing nothing,
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone who has gotten this to run please post a quick set of instructions on exactly what they did as my stupididty is still preventing me from finding any "Xwnc" program after an apparently problem free compile.

Please...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Xwnc is at /usr/local/bin/Xwnc . Perhaps /usr/local/bin is not on your path?

Code:
echo $PATH


Alternatively try this as root to search for the file -

Code:
find /usr/ -name Xwnc -print
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx for the reply, i've searched my entire machine but its just not there...

Code:

plasma4 root # find /usr/ -name Xwnc -print
plasma4 root #


I must have done something wrong during the install but there is only a few steps, and i can't figure how i've stuffed them up, it would be great if someone could post exactly what they did to get it going, even if its just for my sanity.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what I've done so far:

Code:
tar xvjf nucleo-0.1.tar.bz2
cd nucleo-0.1
./configure --prefix=/usr/local
make
su
make install


Then for metisse:

Code:
tar xvjf metisse-0.3.0.tar.bz2
cd metisse-0.3.0
./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-fontpath=/usr/share/fonts/misc,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi
make
su
make install


then i tried various combinations of commands that have not yet worked, but at least Xwnc existed... please, someone who's gotten this working help us out!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkalderash wrote:
please, someone who's gotten this working help us out!


Go ahead and compile and install things as per the instructions provided on the website (http://insitu.lri.fr/~chapuis/metisse/download_install.html).

Close out your X session, and at a console, run:

Code:
Xwnc -geometry 1280x1024 &


Obviously you'll have to adjust the geometry setting according to what your specific resolution is. Now, what I did was just edit up a new .xinitrc so I could run the metisse-start-fvwm script...

~/.xinitrc
Code:
metisse-start-fvwm -wd :0


Then you can just startx and you should be in. I'm about to give this a second test to make sure it still works as I've written it up.

Edit: Yes, that works for me. I'm posting from inside the modified fvwm. :D
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