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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 2:18 pm    Post subject: ATI drivers and 2.6 Kernel [SOLVED] Reply with quote

I have been struggling with this for a couple weeks now, trying to get ATI's drivers to work with a 2.6 kernel. Did all sorts of research on gentoo forums and found all sorts of HOW-TO's to get the ati drivers to work in the 2.6 kernel. I can not get direct rendering to work, and for a while I just thought I was being stupid and it was just a long while since I used linux for my desktop system, but I come to find after all this work that it was my own stupidity. Stupidity for not going up to ATI's webpage in the first place and reading their FAQ.

The ati drivers do NOT work with the 2.6 kernel regardless of what anyone says:

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Q6: What Linux kernel version is needed for this driver?

A6: Version 2.4 of the Linux kernel is required for this driver. This kernel version is installed as standard in many current Linux distributions. Support for the newer version 2.6 kernel is under development and should be available in a future release.


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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're wrong, the current ATi drivers work perfectly fine with kernel 2.6. I've been running them with my 9500 Pro under 2.6 since 2.6.0 went stable and up until quite recently haven't had any trouble with them whatsoever.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I see the output from your glxinfo. I would certainly like to see that direct rendering is enabled, using the ati-drivers.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cloudsurfer wrote:
The ati drivers do NOT work with the 2.6 kernel regardless of what anyone says:

Um, yes they do :) I've been using them with 2.5/2.6 for months, and so have many other people. If you could post a description of what you've tried so far and what problems you ran into, I'll try and help you out.

cloudsurfer wrote:
Can I see the output from your glxinfo. I would certainly like to see that direct rendering is enabled, using the ati-drivers.

ATI glxinfo:
Code:
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
    GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
    GLX_ATI_render_texture
GLX extensions:
    GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
    GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Radeon 9800 (AIB) Athlon (3DNow!)
OpenGL version string: 1.3 (X4.3.0-3.2.9)
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array,
    GL_S3_s3tc, GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program,
    GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_shadow,
    GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
    GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
    GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix,
    GL_ARB_vertex_blend, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program,
    GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_ATI_draw_buffers, GL_ATI_element_array,
    GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap, GL_ATI_fragment_shader, GL_ATI_map_object_buffer,
    GL_ATI_separate_stencil, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3,
    GL_ATI_texture_float, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once,
    GL_ATI_vertex_array_object, GL_ATI_vertex_attrib_array_object,
    GL_ATI_vertex_streams, GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3,
    GL_ATIX_texture_env_route, GL_ATIX_vertex_shader_output_point_size,
    GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate,
    GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint,
    GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays,
    GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_rescale_normal,
    GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_secondary_color,
    GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap,
    GL_EXT_texgen_reflection, GL_EXT_texture3D,
    GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, GL_EXT_texture_cube_map,
    GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine,
    GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic,
    GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle,
    GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_EXT_vertex_shader, GL_HP_occlusion_test,
    GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_occlusion_query,
    GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp,
    GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod,
    GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_multitexture, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
    GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have video working just fine. Just no direct rendering using the 2.6 kernel. I am using mm-sources. I have mmtr support, real time clock support, agpgart, my intel_agp support all built in including the section about DRM as modules and loaded. Compile the kernel. Emerge ati-drivers. opengl-update ati. All that goes fine. My /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 has rtc, agpgart, intel_agp, and flgrx in it. The flgrx module does not load on start up, I get an error with that which I have yet to check out as I had to head to work this morning. I have tried using both the internal agpgart module and ATI's provided driver. I have been doing this for years on other computers, but this is one of the rare times I have had trouble as this is all new hardware to me.

My only issue is not in getting display or anything, but in getting direct rendering. ATI's webpage says right on there that the ati-drivers are not for the 2.6 kernel. I am just curious why I have never seen this brought up in all the ATI driver threads I have read here.

And I will shut up now that I see someones direct rendering line saying yes..... :(

Something to help as well for those who take pity on me. The card is not directly from ati. Its a Sapphire 9600 pro.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like that ATI FAQ is in need of some updating :)

cloudsurfer wrote:
I am using mm-sources. I have mmtr support, real time clock support, agpgart, my intel_agp support all built in including the section about DRM as modules and loaded. Compile the kernel. Emerge ati-drivers. opengl-update ati. All that goes fine. My /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 has rtc, agpgart, intel_agp, and flgrx in it. The flgrx module does not load on start up, I get an error with that which I have yet to check out as I had to head to work this morning.

mm-sources sometimes causes problems with the driver because of the new patches it contains. For example, the latest version will prevent the driver from compiling because it alters some kernel code the driver depends on. In this particular case it is relatively easy to fix, but you need to be aware that this kind of thing can happen with mm-sources and similar patchsets. Once you get home, if you could post the error you get when trying to load the module it would be helpful.

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cloudsurfer wrote:
including the section about DRM

The DRM settings should be disabled - if they're builtin, the fglrx module will refuse to load. If they're compiled as modules and loaded before the fglrx module, it won't load. If they're compiled as modules and loaded after the fglrx module, I think it will disable 3D acceleration. All you need in that section of the kernel config are the /dev/agpgart and intel-agp options enabled.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thanks for taking my half-cocked attitude and turning it around. I will check if this works and get back to you. Sorry again, but the lack of direct rendering was really beginning to annoy me considering the amount of work I have put into this so far. It gets kinda discouraging to do a couple hours of reading and research to not get one little thing working...
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, 2.6.6-mm2 is giving me grief with respect to ATi as well but every previous 2.6 release that I've tried has worked perfectly fine.

You can see what I normally get here:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=154605&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50#997729

I'm trying to find more info on the changes that break the ATi drivers in 2.6.6-mm2 (there's a thread on it here.) but I'm not having much luck.

edit: I just noticed Wedge has posted a fix in that thread. Ill go check it out and report back
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oooooo, I have to say, both you and Wedge rock right now. Thanks for all the clear concise info. I would rather patch ati's driver ebuild than try another kernel. I really like the mm-sources and would be very sad to have to go elsewhere, and considering what was said in that other post from Wedge, this problem is going to exist regardless once it gets moved to the rest of the kernel tree.

On that note. How can I protect ebuilds I have patched or edited? Mainly my kernel-headers get over written everytime I emerge sync because I am using 2.6 headers.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cloudsurfer wrote:
On that note. How can I protect ebuilds I have patched or edited?

This is what the portage overlay is for. In your /etc/make.conf file, look for a line like this
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PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
and make sure it's not commented. This lets you store ebuilds under /usr/local/portage, and they won't be affected by syncing the normal tree. So, to create an edited copy of the 3.7.6 ebuild, create the appropriate directories under /usr/local/portage:
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mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/media-video/ati-drivers/files
then copy over the normal ebuild from /usr/portage/media-video/ati-drivers. Also copy over the contents of the /usr/portage/media-video/ati-drivers/files directory to /usr/local/portage/media-video/ati-drivers/files (this contains patches that the ebuild uses). Make the changes to the ebuild in /usr/local/portage/media-video/ati-drivers, then run
Code:
ebuild /usr/local/portage/media-video/ati-drivers/ati-drivers-x.y.z.ebuild digest

(replace x.y.z with whatever version you use)
After that, you should be able to emerge the altered drivers by doing
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emerge /usr/local/portage/media-video/ati-drivers/ati-drivers-x.y.z.ebuild

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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wedges patch appears to fix everything for me, thanks man.

edit: With the kernel-headers ebuilds a simple fix to allow Portage to install them without monkeying around in the ebuilds is to put

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sys-kernel/linux-headers -*


in the /etc/portage/package.keywords file. It's an unsupported hack that won't exist for much longer (though hopefully something similar will exist afterward.) but it'll do the job in the mean time.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great, I hadn't checked 3.7.6 actually worked (the older versions are faster for me).
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I'm sure the older drivers would be faster here as well but 3.7.6 supports WineX whereas 3.2.8 doesn't so 3.2.8 gets the boot. The performance difference isn't really noticable in what else I play so it hasn't really been that big a deal.
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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ummm, ok, I have tried, my brain is tired. I tried patching the ebuild here and here. The output from my dmesg shows some other problems trying to load the flrgx module. Have a look at my xconfig. I really don't know on this one. If anyone needs anything, feel free to instant message me on AIM.

[edit]
Oh, and the patch file is here

Should someone have a kernel source thats like the mm-sources and works with the ati drivers, I might be willing to give it a try if thats what is nessacary, but the issue is the mm-sources will be out on the main trunk after a bit and anyone running up-to-date kernel sources will run into the same issue. The reason I like the mm-sources so much is because of all the new hardware I have in this machine.
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I just gave the gentoo-dev-sources a try, still getting a error loading the module:
Code:
Real Time Clock Driver v1.12
agpgart: Detected an Intel i875 Chipset.
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 941M
agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xe8000000
fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address f998cb50
 printing eip:
f999ba36
*pde = 01b4d067
*pte = 00000000
Oops: 0000 [#1]
PREEMPT SMP
CPU:    0
EIP:    0060:[<f999ba36>]    Tainted: P
EFLAGS: 00010246   (2.6.5-gentoo-r1)
EIP is at firegl_init+0x46/0x110 [fglrx]
eax: f99c0d60   ebx: f998cb50   ecx: 00000002   edx: f99c0d88
esi: f7542000   edi: f99c0dd0   ebp: c0380e30   esp: f7543f60
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process modprobe (pid: 4412, threadinfo=f7542000 task=f74f1840)
Stack: 0000000e 00000014 00000012 00000000 00000286 f99c0d60 f99c0d60 f992d258
       f998cb50 f997b11e f997b220 f9951000 08059720 fffffffc c0380e4c c0380e4c
       f99c0800 c01348c5 ffff0001 f7542000 40021008 08059720 4a14ffae f7542000
Call Trace:
 [<f992d258>] firegl_init_module+0xf6/0x18c [fglrx]
 [<c01348c5>] sys_init_module+0x11e/0x244
 [<c0108691>] sysenter_past_esp+0x52/0x71

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummm, excuse me while I go and bang my head against a wall. Off to try the aa-sources and the ck-sources.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got almost everything to work with my ATi Radeon 9800 Pro with the 2.6.6 kernel however I get this in my XFree86 log
(EE) fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"

http://blahserver.greatnow.com/atihowto.html is a guide to how far I got.

And that is the error that is probably keeping me from 3D Acceleration.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cloudsurfer wrote:
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Oh, and the patch file is here

Should someone have a kernel source thats like the mm-sources and works with the ati drivers, I might be willing to give it a try if thats what is nessacary, but the issue is the mm-sources will be out on the main trunk after a bit and anyone running up-to-date kernel sources will run into the same issue. The reason I like the mm-sources so much is because of all the new hardware I have in this machine.
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I have ebuilds for both ati-drivers and ati-drivers-extra that have been edited to automatically apply the page_count patch here. I know these work as I use them myself with 2.6.6-mm2 and DRI works perfectly fine now. Just untar them into your overlay and they should be available automatically.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Slouch: that error usually means X can't find your AGP chipset. Check that you have support for it in your kernel, and that the kernel AGP modules are loaded along with the "fglrx" module.

@cloudsurfer: I've never seen that error in your dmesg before. I wonder if it's something to do with the fact that you're running with SMP enabled. Some people with older SMP boards (Tyan IIRC) have never had much luck getting the drivers to work for them, although they didn't have the same problems as you're having, and that was with dual procs rather than HT. Unfortunately, if it turns out that this is an SMP problem, there probably isn't much chance of getting it fixed. You could let ATI know about it, but I'd imagine it'd be a long time before they got round to doing anything about it. It might be worth trying a kernel without SMP support just to check what happens.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have support for my nvidia chipset in the kernel.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you post your full log somewhere it would help. You need to have "UseInternalAGPGART" set to "no" in your XF86Config for things to work with the kernel AGP compiled in.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,


When I was using 3.2.8 ATi drivers I got

Code:
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9700 PRO (SSE/3DNow!)


But with 3.7.6 (need this 'cause I mess with WineX) it's

Code:
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9700 PRO Generic


Now where are my SSE and 3DNow! optimizations?

I've run emerge ati-drivers three times and yet it does nt want to enable the optimizations.

Is there any way to get it to compile the fglrx kernel module with specific optimizations?

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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that is down to the way the binary part of the driver was compiled (ie I don't think it can be changed short of another driver version). Lots of people have noticed that it changed from 3.2.8 to 3.7.x, but there's nothing much you can do about it AFAIK. I'm still using the older version and there's nothing really forcing you to upgrade unless you need one of the fixes the new driver provides, like the WineX thing Admiral LSD mentioned.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, haha!!! At least I dont have to stop using the mm-sources. I will have to give that prepatched ati-drivers a try and see if that works. My only question is, did I do the ebuild the right way? I have never done ebuilds so I donno all the functions that are available.
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I think the way you did it will work alright. I just used the basic patch command because I couldn't remember how epatch works.
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2004 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arg, even using that ebuild in my portage overlay is causing this:

Code:
Real Time Clock Driver v1.12
Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected an Intel i875 Chipset.
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 941M
agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xe8000000
fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000
 printing eip:
f8ea4816
*pde = 00000000
       ___      ______
      0--,|    /OOOOOO\
     {_o  /  /OO plop OO\
       \__\_/OO oh dear OOO\s
          \OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO/
           __XXX__   __XXX__
Oops: 0000 [#1]
PREEMPT
Modules linked in: fglrx intel_agp agpgart rtc
CPU:    0
EIP:    0060:[<f8ea4816>]    Tainted: P   VLI
EFLAGS: 00010246   (2.6.6-mm2)
EIP is at firegl_init+0x46/0x110 [fglrx]
eax: f8ecace0   ebx: 00000000   ecx: 00000002   edx: f8ecad00
esi: f7739000   edi: f8ecad30   ebp: c035c280   esp: f7739f50
ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
Process modprobe (pid: 4685, threadinfo=f7739000 task=f770b970)
Stack: 00000010 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000282 f8ecace0 f8ecace0 f8e2c249
       00000000 00000000 0000001b 0000001a 0000001c f8e95b04 f8e8411e f8e8422c
       08059138 fffffffc c035c298 c035c298 f8eca880 c0127a64 ffff0001 f7739000
Call Trace:
 [<f8e2c249>] firegl_init_module+0xe7/0x17d [fglrx]
 [<c0127a64>] sys_init_module+0x105/0x214
 [<c01054f9>] sysenter_past_esp+0x52/0x71


Does anyone really think this has something to do with preemt in my kernel or smp or have any other ideas....?
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