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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2002 3:49 pm    Post subject: installing 1.4-rc1 & pcmcia_core Reply with quote

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hi,

Tried install to insall 1.4-rc1 on my Laptop 600E with a Xircom Cardbus
RBE-100, it falls with the falling. These are the instructions on the Doc's
page. Is there a different way of doing this with version 1.4-rc1?

# insmod pcmcia_core
no module by that name found
# insmod i82365
no module by that name found
# insmod dsno module by that name found
# cardmgr -f
command not found


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bruce
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2002 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the modules isn't being installed in rigth dir....

I had a problem once, that the modules from the pcmcia-cs didn't install in the dir that the kernel modules was installed.... trie look in /lib/modules, if it's not installing in the rigth dir, that edit the ebuild, it esay too see where you need to edit, so it does not install in the default dir.... This fixed the problem for me, hope it fixes it for you ;-)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 9:47 am    Post subject: But .... Reply with quote

.... DancesWithWords meant the modules in the bootstrap environment on the CD, no?

Because I had the same issue with installing the 1.4rc1 CD on a laptop. Where are the cs modules?

I couldn't find any pcmcia ethernet stuff in /lib/modules. Is this strange?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trying to load those modules as well and cannot find them either. Looked throughout /lib/modules and there is a pcmcia directory but it is empty.
Hopefully someone will figure it out soon, been waiting for 1.4 for a while and I am itching to use it.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2002 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of new livecd ISOs have come out since the original post in this thread. Do they have the support you folks need?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac wrote:
A couple of new livecd ISOs have come out since the original post in this thread. Do they have the support you folks need?


I just downloaded both avail. ISOs today(9/16) and no pcmcia modules are in the cd.
Is it a oversight by Gentoo Dev team?
Am I doing something wrong here? or has anyone succesfully installl gentoo 1.4 off cd on the laptop?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only tried the livecd-basic-1.4_rc1-r2.iso which was uploaded on Sept. 14th and that I downloaded this afternoon (9/16/02) and it had no pcmcia drivers that I could find.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 5:46 pm    Post subject: the new iso 9/16/2002 Reply with quote

The new iso with the unreal demo doesn't have pcmcia support either. :(
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is sucking big time. I was looking forword to installing gentoo on my Laptop and doing some wardriving. Any Idea when this will be fixed?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so just download an old 1.2 iso ... you dont need the 1.4 iso to install gentoo 1.4.rc1 ... this is how to do it:

1. boot the 1.2 cd as usual
2. load pcmcia drivers
Code:
modprobe pcmcia_core
modprobe i82365
modprobe ds
cardmgr -f

3. configure your network as usual
4. prepare partitions & and filesystems as usual
5. mount filesystems as usual - just don't mount the cd
6. now make a directory in /mnt/gentoo/ e.g. install-temp
7. cd /mnt/gentoo/install-temp
8. download the gentoo 1.4 stage[X]-tarball from ibiblio.org into this directory e.g.:
Code:
wget http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc1/x86/stage1-x86-1.4_rc1-20020908-1208.tar.bz2

9. cd /mnt/gentoo/
9. unpack it e.g.
Code:
tar xvjpf /mnt/gentoo/install-temp/stage1-x86-1.4_rc1-20020908-1208.tar.bz2

10. continue installation as usual

thats it. also remember that the current 1.4_rc1 iso's are just release candidates and NOT final versions. so just file a bug report at bugs.gentoo.org and install (i wont do it as i cant verify this as i dont use/have the 1.4 iso's ... i did the installation exactly as i explained).

[edit: addendum, if you want to use the stage files from the 1.4-cd you can also do that with out any problems. just put it in the cd drive and mount it as usual after you've bootet from the old 1.2 cd *hint* *hint*]

[edit: added example wget command ... ]
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2002 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heh
guess I went overboard with making my own bootable cd's for my laptop then :)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just geeked out lil thats all....it happens. Now for some actual thoughts....

brain:what kernel you running on your 2500..I'm having probs with anything past 1.1A

Rojaro: thanx for the tip...Ill surely be playing with the c400 tonight afterall. =] -Phluid
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2002 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phluid wrote:
brain:what kernel you running on your 2500..I'm having probs with anything past 1.1A


if you were referring to my 2500... I'm running the 2.4.19 vanilla sources on the machine. I've had some problems with the gentoo kernels on server-class hardware....
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2002 3:40 am    Post subject: This needs to be fixed ... Reply with quote

Downloaded and burned a CD today (9/20/02) and quickly found out that this problem still exists.

I appreciate that I can use the 1.2 image ... no problem now ... but definitely caused frustration today. I'm used to possibilities not being documented ... I'm not used to documentation referring to things that don't exist at all (meaning that the docs were written without actually being tested).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:37 pm    Post subject: locked Reply with quote

As my thread was locked, I will continue ranting here. I have no problems with release candidates and their lacking hardware support that the developers do not use. I have a problem with the install guide CLEARLY STATING instructions that do not yet apply to that release. I have a problem with the update guide being a broken link.
I have a problem with the lack of success when I try to emerge galeon, mozilla, openoffice, or any sdk from that mess of java ebuilds. (yes i downloaded the binary) Yes, I did get my 1.2 gentoo release running. So go ahead and defend all you like. although i hope for more, Gentoo is still just a hobby linux distro that is still only useful to those who have hardware configs similar to those of the developers and ebuilders. why dont they spend some time getting the ebuilds for mozilla strait before they go out and make unreal tournament CDs???
I want to continue with my 5-day gentoo setup nightmare. all for what?? A few seconds saved from by boot time and for programs to run a fraction of a second faster than any other distro. Is that worth the hours upon hours I have spent to get this set up? for what? to post my problem in a forum and get red eyed smiley faced by someone who clearly is running gentoo on supported hardware? :evil: :evil: :evil:
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

miunk..

Hardware compatibility is a problem with all Linux distrobutions, especially source distrobutions. Each distro has to work pretty hard to get things working. Part of this is maintaining documentation. Errors will be made, especially in younger distros. I would like to think that gentoo is still well above the curve for most source distrobutions. Please be patient. There are a lot of advantages to source based distrobutions other than compiling everything yourself. You'll know everything about your system. It's very rewarding to know how things work because you can also know how to fix them when they break. Hang in there! :)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 8:01 pm    Post subject: ok just one more question Reply with quote

So i boot from the 1.2 disc. (which doesn't have lynx), how do i 'download' the tbz2 that I want?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good question which i forgot to answer above (just added it) :)

busybox (the shell on the cd) contains wget (which is a minimalistic tool to download stuff via http or ftp) which you can use for this task, e.g.:
Code:
wget http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc1/x86/stage1-x86-1.4_rc1-20020908-1208.tar.bz2

to get an index of all available files use:
Code:
wget http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc1/x86/
and
Code:
less index.html
that will be html of course but it should be no problem to find the file(s) you want
hope this helps
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 2:50 am    Post subject: cardmgr error on shutdown Reply with quote

I added this to the net.eth0 script after the dhcpcd -k command section:

/sbin/ifconfig ${IFACE} down >/dev/null

And this to the "check" section of /etc/pcmcia/network:

/sbin/config $DEVICE | grep -q RUNNING || exit 1

...

doesn't really matter i suppose, i just didn't like the error messages.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: cardmgr error on shutdown Reply with quote

miunk wrote:
I added this to the net.eth0 script after the dhcpcd -k command section:

/sbin/ifconfig ${IFACE} down >/dev/null

And this to the "check" section of /etc/pcmcia/network:

/sbin/config $DEVICE | grep -q RUNNING || exit 1

...

doesn't really matter i suppose, i just didn't like the error messages.


i'm sorry, but that's entirely offtopic .. see forum guidelines point 8 ... :?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case anyone else is trying to use this right now, I had to manually unbzip2 the file in /mnt/gentoo and then untar the resulting tarball, for whatever reason. I was getting "folder does not exist" errors or something. That'll look like this:
Code:
bzip2 -d stage2-*.tar.bz2
tar -xvpf stage2-*.tar
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the latest 1.4.iso have pcmcia now? Has anyone tried it?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, no. You still can get the support you need by using the 1.2 cd to boot and then by getting the stage you need for 1.4 rc1 through wget...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2002 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oi....
Rc2 on the way or what??
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2002 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OOh, I'm having this same problem, but my main difficulty is running bootstrap.sh when progressing to stage 2. Here's why:

(All this is on an IBM Pentium3 thinkpad laptop that previously had Win2k, and is using an old generic pcmcia network card)

First, I dloaded the LiveCD image and burned it to a CD, it booted up fine, but I quickly discovered that the pcmcia modules weren't included. Oh well. ;)

So then, I got the old stable image and burned that. Despite not quite having all the utilities that the install docs say to use, it had the pcmcia modules. I successfully loaded those and configured my card manually, as net-setup is not on that image. (manual static configuration, resolve.conf etc) I was able to ping a few hosts on and off my net by name successfully.

Then I ran dd, fdisk, and the mk* utilities; and set up my partitions successfully. (An install script might smooth these things out a bit ;) ) And activated swap/created mount points. Then I used wget(lynx wasn't on the stable image either) to get the newest stage 1 tarball, and extracted it.

Mounted proc and copied resolve.conf. Then I did the chroot. Here's where the real problems began...

First, I realized I no longer had access to utilities such as ping (I later copied ping and such over for testing), which can be a bit annoying. :)

I ran emerge sync which immediately died with an error of not being able to resolve rsync.gentoo.org
After copying over ping, I saw that my DNS suddenly stopped resolving, although the connectivity was still there (IP's worked). (chroot)/etc/resolve.conf was present and the same as before the chroot. So, after a bit of mumbling, I switched to a different console and resolved rsync.gentoo.org, then entered the IP in (chroot)/etc/hosts
Then, rsync chugged along happily, and it was good. :)

So, I set up make.conf using the handy references located here and here with nano (missed my poor vi :) ) Then ran into my final stumbling block.

I went to run bootstrap.sh, and it started alright, but died a little ways in with not being able to resolve a mirror for some package. So, I opened up /etc/hosts and entered in a few mirror IP's. Then it went a little farther and died again with the same problem.

I opened /etc/hosts to find it reset to just containing localhost. :(

So, I entered in the mirrors again, and did chmod -w /etc/hosts

And it died again at the same place, one of the packages was overwriting it. I kinda gave up for now with this, because the package kept nuking the file, then other downloads would break. I considered changing the file back quickly via another shell, and may try that tomarrow.

But I'm still wondering why my dns would die after the chroot.

Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
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