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rizzo
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 Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2002 6:01 pm Post subject: 200th Post! |
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This post represents my 200th post on these forums!
What is the breakdown in levels (n00b, Tux's Lil Helper, etc) as far as how many posts you need to attain the next level? |
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reverius42
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2002 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: 200th Post! |
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| rizzo wrote: | This post represents my 200th post on these forums!
What is the breakdown in levels (n00b, Tux's Lil Helper, etc) as far as how many posts you need to attain the next level? |
Well, I've just been trying to figure that out. Here's what I came up with, though this could be wrong.
n00b - between 0 and 74 posts
Tux's little helper - between 75 and 149 posts
Apprentice - between 150 and 299 posts
Guru - between 300 and 599 posts
l33t - between 600 and 999 posts
Veteran - 1000 posts or more
I'm pretty sure those are at least close to what it actually is (if not correct).
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masseya
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| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2002 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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I think you are correct. 
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klieber
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 12:41 am Post subject: Re: 200th Post! |
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| reverius42 wrote: | | I'm pretty sure those are at least close to what it actually is (if not correct). |
Spot-on.
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metalhedd
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2002 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| 299... awww... but I want it now... |
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klieber
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2002 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| metalhedd wrote: | | 299... awww... but I want it now... |
Well, you can always pull a Dartagnan and go inflate your post count in /dev/null...
I don't understand the fascination that some people seem to have with how many posts they rack up. Lord knows I've got plenty, but I certainly don't look upon it as a badge of honor. It just means that my job is more boring than your job. 
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metalhedd
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| Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2002 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| klieber wrote: | | metalhedd wrote: | | 299... awww... but I want it now... |
Well, you can always pull a Dartagnan and go inflate your post count in /dev/null...
I don't understand the fascination that some people seem to have with how many posts they rack up. Lord knows I've got plenty, but I certainly don't look upon it as a badge of honor. It just means that my job is more boring than your job.
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I dunno about that... basically I just sit here waiting for people to call. if nobody calls I read the forums i take an average of about 75 calls in a day.. probably avg about 1 minute each. maybe two. its basically troubleshooting for lottery terminals.. old shoddy ones. alsa customer support (listening to people complain that they never win) and pretty much any other reason you'd call the lottery corp, btw its not so much that I awnt a higher number of posts, i just want to have the title of "guru" |
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reverius42
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| Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 5:08 am Post subject: post count |
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Well... I don't know if this suggestion would seem radical, but.. what about making it so that posts to /dev/null don't go in your post count? That would eliminate this "cheating"
I don't think it's fair that someone should be able to inflate their post count (and thus their title, which is really the point) artificailly, when I've worked hard for my title. Even if it is only 'Tux's lil' helper" 
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klieber
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| Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: post count |
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| reverius42 wrote: | | Well... I don't know if this suggestion would seem radical, but.. what about making it so that posts to /dev/null don't go in your post count? That would eliminate this "cheating" |
Personally, I really don't think it matters all that much. People put way too much stock in these titles as it is. But, if someone wants to submit a patch to phpBB that allows us to implement this feature, we'd be happy to evaluate it.
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Tuxisuau
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| Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a karma whore!
This one adds 1 to my postnumber-karma :D
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BonezTheGoon
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| Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: post count |
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| reverius42 wrote: | | I don't think it's fair that someone should be able to inflate their post count (and thus their title, which is really the point) artificailly, when I've worked hard for my title. Even if it is only 'Tux's lil' helper" |
First of all post count should really only be considered valuable if it is something that is so specific in topic that only a forum guru of that forum would know (like a Gentoo specific question, that no other distro super guru could know the answer to). For the VAST majority of questions in these forums often times it's the n00bs (who, for many, are far from new to linux--and are simply new to the gentoo forums) that answer questions for me (and for other people that are no longer n00bs in these forums.)
Interestingly you mention "the point" -- truly the point of post count is to give status to posters. The reason we want to give status to posters is because it works, for some odd reason humans want status and so it acts as a VERY GOOD motivator and results in better participation in the forums--and therefore a better overall community of support. As for "artificial" posts, these can really be in any thread so disabling post counts from /dev/null really won't help, because next you'll be going after "Off The Wall" and after that probably the gamers forum, etc, etc, etc. All in all if you wanted a very authoritative system you'd have to go to a rating system (which isn't a half bad idea--many have done this type of thing, I think even /. has) where forum members could rate posts on how helpful they were, this would result in a more true rating of the quality of an individual.
As an example I ask you this: If a person posted over 300 posts in the hardware forums, all asking for support--does this make that person a Guru? I think most people would agree that leech is a better description, but I digress!
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masseya
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| Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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I have to agree. More times than not the one that comes up with that elusive answer is rated as a nOOb by these forums. There are a lot of solutions that wouldn't be too hard to implement if you wanted to make some modifications to phpBB. You could track average post length or some other posting statistics. You could also give people the ability to rate the helpfulness of a post. Realistically, I don't think there's all that much of a problem. If you are staying around reading the forums and posting just to increase your post count, chances are you'll eventually have read enough of the material on the BB to actually post something helpful for someone. That's the general idea behind giving people a rating. (p.s. Ironically, this is my 300th post.. )
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TheCoop
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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who cares about the post ranking system?
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klieber
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| TheCoop wrote: | | who cares about the post ranking system? |
Well, given that you took the time to dig up and reply to a 3+ month old post, one assumes you do. 
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pjp
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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There's a chance he found it through this post.
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pilla
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2002 2:10 am Post subject: |
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This one was worth the day
| klieber wrote: | | TheCoop wrote: | | who cares about the post ranking system? |
Well, given that you took the time to dig up and reply to a 3+ month old post, one assumes you do.
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B_F_Skinner
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2002 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| Is there a chance one could elevate one's status by making a monetary contribution to Gentoo? (Not trying to bribe, just thinking posting and donating are both contributing). |
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TheCoop
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| Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2002 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| kanuslupus wrote: | | There's a chance he found it through this post. |
That i did
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helmers
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| Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2002 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| mcg wrote: | | Is there a chance one could elevate one's status by making a monetary contribution to Gentoo? (Not trying to bribe, just thinking posting and donating are both contributing). |
Nada. You can't get more status on the forum by sending money to Gentoo. But perhaps they'd consider placing a statue of you on the table of every programmer, reminding them of your greatness.
And I like the rating system. I'll be an apprentice soon.
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B_F_Skinner
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Okay, what is a "l33t"?
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pilla
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| Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Slang for elite.
| B_F_Skinner wrote: | | Okay, what is a "l33t"? |
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HogRider
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| Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2003 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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How about a ranking system based upon how many unanswered posts you reply to?
I regularly check the unanswered posts, and I'm amazed by the sheer number. One of our (gpl) strengths is community support, but I'd have to question that belief when scrolling through our list.
Lend a hand guys.....even if it's only a nudge in the right direction.
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Ari Rahikkala
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| Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2003 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Ooooh, I'd love to see a whole bunch of Frist Psots around ...
Seriously, though, giving titles by postcounts works for some purposes but is an extremely inaccurate method of determining if foo if a more helpful poster than bar. If we want a system for determining that, real user feedback is needed. It doesn't need to be a complex system - only a "Most [positive adjective] poster" thread or two in Chat with a special title being awarded to the one who got the most votes could have a nice effect. Well, except that the sort of people that would get votes in a thread like that probably are [positive adjective] not because they want to gain prestige and status, but because they find it fun/useful... and it might just lead to campaigning. Damn. You should never try to create a system out of humans, they're way too complicated to understand .
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pjp
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| Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| HogRider wrote: | | How about a ranking system based upon how many unanswered posts you reply to? |
That would require a modification to the forums phpbb code. See www.phpbb.com.
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Woland
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| Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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As for me, i wish I could stay "Tux's Little Helper." That's about where I feel my skills are at the moment. I think that if, heaven forbid, I will someday make it to "guru" I could never post again---the fear of making an un-gurulike pronouncement would be too great.
Speaking of which, why are you K. lupus and not C. lupus? |
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