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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:12 am    Post subject: Upate to 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 Monitor: Sync Out of Range[SOLVED] Reply with quote

After I updated to 2.6.14-gentoo-r2, some strange problem appeared:

1. I do not change any kernel configure and grub boot configure, all of them can work perfectly on linux-2.6.13-gentoo-r5;
2. I compiled 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 and recompiled nvidia-kernel, reboot my computer, everything is ok, it can load frambuffer in console environment;
3. run startx, X window runs correctly, but, when I use ctrl+alt+Fn switch to console environment, monitor says: Sync Out of Range.
4. Then, I exit X window, monitor also says: Sync Out of Range, and can't works.

Motion: LG L1715S LCD
Graphics Card: nVidia Gf4200 8X

vesafb-tng:
(1024x768@60) VESA default mode

grub.conf
Code:

default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,6)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo Linux (2.6.14-gentoo-r2)
root (hd0,6)
kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.14-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sda9 video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,1024x768-32@60
initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.14-gentoo-r2


Does anyone know what's wrong?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same problem I'm having! Do you think that we need to downgrade kernels? because that would suck. I'm going to see if I can submit a bug report.

EDIT: Reports filed. Let's see what happens.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea, I'v downgraded kernels

I have another gentoo workstation, it updated to x86-2.6.14-gentoo-r2, works fine.

Motion: 17" CRT
Graphics Card: nVidia Gf4 MX440
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any progress on this? I'm having exactly the same problem with an LG 15" CRT and nVidia GeForce. The drivers (nVidia and vesafb-tng) seem to be working fine, presumably it's a bug in 2.6.14-gentoo-r2?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:50 am    Post subject: Same problem with Intel integrated graphics Reply with quote

I have an Intel i915G motherboard with the Intel GMA900 integrated graphics card, and I'm having the same problem. It only started happening after I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.14-gentoo-r2. So, I guess we can rule out it being a nVidia-only problem?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:05 am    Post subject: OK, possible cause Reply with quote

OK, I noticed something just now. When I boot 2.6.14-gentoo-r2, just before the INIT Version 2.8 booting message, vesafb outputs something about "mtrr" being an unknown option. If you hit F2 to see verbose output during boot, you can catch it. You can also do:

dmesg | grep mtrr

When I boot under 2.6.13-gentoo-r5, I do not get the message about "mtrr" being an unknown option. My grub.conf looks like this:

default 0
timeout 10
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.14-r2
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.14-gentoo-r2 root=/dev/sda3 video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,1024x768-32@75 splash=silent CONSOLE=/dev/tty1
title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.13-r5
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.13-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/sda3 video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap,1024x768-32@75 splash=silent CONSOLE=/dev/tty1

Could it be that the mtrr option has something to do with it? I'm not exactly sure what it does, but it doesn't make sense to me that it would suddenly become an unknown option in the new kernel.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm seeing that too.. I removed mtrr from the boot options and the error disappeared, but the problem remained. Seems unrelated.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm, I don't know if anyone noticed yet, but the problem is solved - your kernel is misconfigured... :!:

That's why cross-posting about the same problem is bad. :idea:
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same problem here.
It's a new installation so I don't have X yet, when I reboot, my monitor says "out of range" (H=29.2Khz, V=70.0hz) and the specs fot it are H=30-95Khz V=50-150hz

My monitor is a Hyundaï Q995 with a Nvidia Geforce Ti 4200 (vesafb-tng)

My grub.conf:
Quote:
default 0
timeout 30
sphashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo
root=(hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.14-gentoo-r2rod root=/dev/hda5 video=1024x768-32@85



Where could I change the H range?

EDIT:oups, sorry
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure that thread is about a different problem. I don't have any drivers other than vesafb-tng checked in the kernel config. Plus this problem occurs after running and exiting X, not initially or during the X session.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:06 pm    Post subject: My kernel is configured properly Reply with quote

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Pretty sure that thread is about a different problem. I don't have any drivers other than vesafb-tng checked in the kernel config. Plus this problem occurs after running and exiting X, not initially or during the X session.


Same exact thing for me. My video kernel config is exactly the same as it was for <= 2.6.13-gentoo-r5, which _never_ exhibited this behavior.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go out on a limb here and say that this is a little more than a few people misconfiguring their kernels. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That must be a different problem. vesafb-tng IS loading here, but does only offer low or wrong resolutions on 2.6.14. Which it emphatically did not with older kernels. Probably vesafb-tng is broken in 2.6.14. I am switching back to vesafb.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone please file a new bug, seems like a different issue than the other thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i accidently started a new [url=https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=2900176#2900176
]thread[/url] about the same problem.

i want to add that, when i started with my old vseafb settings:
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video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,maxvf:60,maxhf:80,maxclk:??,1280x1024@60

i got a kernel panic complaining about vesafb init. i'm totaly sure about it. i noticed that its connected with the maxclk command. i'm not sure where i got that value from (actually i deleted and forgot the value itself - maybe it was 60 or 80?).

it looks like there where some big changes in vesafb-tng which arent full dokumented at the moment in the kernel doku. (or maybe i missed again something as i did with this post :( )

i'm back to vga console for now
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I have two boxs, 1 is a sis, via c2 itx and a via chipset, sempron with geforce 440. The sis box works fine with 2.6.14 @1200x1024. The geforce box will only run at 1024x768 when running 2.6.14. Ive tried both vesa and vesa-tng, and the console and X at stuck at 1024. When I boot with 2.6.13 ever thing is fine. I think has to do with
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*gentoo-sources-2.6.14 (28 Oct 2005)

  28 Oct 2005; Daniel Drake <dsd@gentoo.org> +gentoo-sources-2.6.14.ebuild:
  Initial release. Features vesafb-tng 1.0-rc1-r1
(stupid "cue" key just stoped working)
filed bug#113373
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:26 pm    Post subject: Are you getting monitor signal out of range? Reply with quote

OK, so you are limited to lower resolutions, but what about the original monitor signal out of range problem? I've never run my fbconsole higher than 1024x768 (call me old fashioned), so my problem doesn't happen to be the resolution. Rather, after X loads, I am unable to return to my fbconsole because my monitor complains about the signal being out of range, just as others have described in this thread. Should we open up a separate bug for this specific case?

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I think has to do with

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*gentoo-sources-2.6.14 (28 Oct 2005)

  28 Oct 2005; Daniel Drake <dsd@gentoo.org> +gentoo-sources-2.6.14.ebuild:
  Initial release. Features vesafb-tng 1.0-rc1-r1


I think you are probably right about this one. There has to be have been a change that is causing both of these problems with 2.6.14, because everything was fine with 2.6.13.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I would recommend opening a new bug for it. One thing you might try is look i your /etc/rc.conf and if UNICODE="yes" set the coment it out and reboot. This is a wild shot, but what the hay its your computer not mine :wink: If it does work, definitly file a bug umm and mention me in big print :D
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:39 pm    Post subject: Solved! Reply with quote

Yep, I checked my /etc/rc.conf and I did have UNICODE="yes" for some reason. When I put it to "no" it solved the problem. Obviously it should still work even with UNICODE="yes" so I have filed a new bug:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113408

Thanks for the tip! Hopefully this isn't a tough bug to fix.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to report that my UNICODE was already set to "no", but I'm still experiencing the problem..
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:33 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

dispossessed wrote:
Sorry to report that my UNICODE was already set to "no", but I'm still experiencing the problem..

Me too! :cry:

j-m wrote:
Erm, I don't know if anyone noticed yet, but the problem is solved - your kernel is misconfigured... :!:

That's why cross-posting about the same problem is bad. :idea:

I'v read the post, and checked my kernel config, I'm sure I'v "disabled anyother graphics driver other than vesafb".


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Yep, I checked my /etc/rc.conf and I did have UNICODE="yes" for some reason. When I put it to "no" it solved the problem. Obviously it should still work even with UNICODE="yes" so I have filed a new bug:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113408

Thanks for the tip! Hopefully this isn't a tough bug to fix.


I don't think that is the point.
I have two gentoo workstations, they have almost the same configure, all have set UNICODE="yes" in /etc/rc.conf, one (Motion: 17" MAG CRT; Graphics Card: nVidia Gf4 MX440) works fine, another (Motion: LG L1715S LCD; Graphics Card: nVidia Gf4200 8X) "Sync Out of Range".
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn he did 8)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have two gentoo workstations, they have almost the same configure, all have set UNICODE="yes" in /etc/rc.conf, one (Motion: 17" MAG CRT; Graphics Card: nVidia Gf4 MX440) works fine, another (Motion: LG L1715S LCD; Graphics Card: nVidia Gf4200 8X) "Sync Out of Range".


OK, so in other words you're saying that UNICODE="yes" is NOT causing you a problem on one machine, while the other gets "sync out of range." Have you tried setting UNICODE="no" on the machine that is having problems? Maybe UNICODE="yes" is only causing problems with certain configurations.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try using vesafb instead of vesafb-tng, and see if that solves your problem.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

olger901 wrote:
Try using vesafb instead of vesafb-tng, and see if that solves your problem.

yeah, vesafb works fine. :lol:
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