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ashtophet
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shredz pretty nasty error... graphic card && driver? with composite disabled things work... isn't it?
BNoise did you try don't load dri? did you try reemerging nvidia driver? |
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mani-man
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| brenden wrote: | | mani-man wrote: | | After I've upgraded to 6.8 everything takes so much longer to start. Anyone else that have the same problem? And if so, Is there a workaround? |
Give running "fc-cache" a try. |
Thanks! That did the trick! |
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Gentii
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Xorg 6.8 and nvidia doesn't seem to run well. I had many crash on my new box, with firefox, beep-media-player and other stuff, screens go black, keyboard isn't active anymore, I had to reboot manually. It happens at least 10 times, then Damouse gave me the advice to recompile Xorg without CFLAGS, and great it works flawlessy now.
Yesterday, I did the same gentoo install on another box (nptl, 2.6 headers, gcc 3.4, ~x86) and still the same annoying crash. I just recompiled it without CFLAGS, and it works great now. I should say too that there is no noticeable difference with or without cflags, unless you make some benchmarks.
So what's wrong with CFLAGS and xorg 6.8 ? This gonna be fixed ?
The cflags I used was : -O2 -march=athlon-xp/pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer. |
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sindre
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Add "-mno-sse2". SSE2 seems to be a bit unstable in gcc-3.4.x |
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Mythos
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Xorg 6.8.0 is a big black hole of problems, i can't run opengl etc etc.
It's very buggy  i can't run old xorg.conf in this new, thunk i'll re-emerge old xorg!
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sindre
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I have been using it since .903 and have yet to see any bugs (not counting those related to COMPOSITE). |
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Mythos
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Well long time i use xorg, but last time i have update xorg, i start having many serious problems, first if i enable opengl i can´t log gnome as user, it simple crash! I can only with root lol, if i configure without opengl, it seems ok, but ... i need opengl!
Any one got problems with ati configuration ?
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FishB8
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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uggh. I've wasted a day and a half trying to get 6.8.0 working correctly. I finally went back to 6.7.0. Apparently I'm not the only one having troubles... 
Are all these problems (and there are quite a few) due to bugs in 6.8.0 or are they the result of some poor patches? I'm tempted to install it without any of the patches that portage applies just to see what happens.
I just have a hard time believing that such buggy code would be a release version....
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BNoise
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| galiza_ceive wrote: |
BNoise did you try don't load dri? did you try reemerging nvidia driver? |
If i remember right i did try that.
Ill try again in an hour or two. |
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Mythos
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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yes i used my ati conf into xorg.conf.
It's all oki, what is not oki is thi snew xorg! I was thinking that i was getting crazy, but now i see that many people having the same problems!
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ck42
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Odd....
#fc-cache -f
results in
Fontconfig error: "local.conf", line 29: no element found
...and in local.conf, line 29 doesn't exist. Line 28 is the last line.
Any ideas?
[EDIT]
Never mind.....just needed to re-emerge fontconfig. All better now 
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Kevin72594
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I just upgraded to 6.8.0 with an ati radeon 9200SE using the fglrx driver. My problem is that I can't just click on a window to raise it to the top. my WM is fluxbox and the only thing I've changed is upgrading to 6.8.0 from 6.7.*.
Another problem I'm having is that whenever I run "glxinfo" my computer locks up and i have to do a hard reboot with the button.
I'm using my tv-out as a second monitor and that's still working though. So I would assume the fglrx driver is at least kinda working.
If anyone has any ideas about any of these problems, just let me know and I'll play with them, thanks!
EDIT: one more thing, openoffice won't start, I don't think xscreensaver will either
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ghostn9e
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| FishB8 wrote: | | ...I just have a hard time believing that such buggy code would be a release version.... |
Have u ever heard of Windows? 
and xorg (so far) has been quite stable, as long as the composite module isnt loaded, that is still considered buggy by the xorg devs.
but, i cant say the same for ATI users... ATI drivers suck ass!! |
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Mythos
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| ghostn9e wrote: | | FishB8 wrote: | | ...I just have a hard time believing that such buggy code would be a release version.... |
Have u ever heard of Windows?
and xorg (so far) has been quite stable, as long as the composite module isnt loaded, that is still considered buggy by the xorg devs.
but, i cant say the same for ATI users... ATI drivers suck ass!! |
Well i am an ati user! I have no problem in last xorg!
Why after update xorg, i have started having problems with xorg ?
That is my problem!
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Lasker
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| shredz wrote: | XMMS still no work in 6.8.0 release version when composite enabled in xorg.conf
and mplayer and xcompmgr still end up in a fight with xv rendering. |
Same here with smpeg (gtv) => gtv crash always and X crash most of the time.
Problem stops when composite disabled. Strange enough: glmovie still works! |
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Mythos
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Hi there again, i have improved xorg, but there's one thing i wnat and i can't solve, i need to load dri for ati opengl :
| Code: | glxinfo |grep direct
Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect |
and that's a problem if i uncomment dri xorg becames unstable, many problems such as glxinfo crash, can't login with regular user etc.
Any one solved this problem i need 3d accelaration.
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dhalsiim
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Having used xorg 6.8.0 for 2 days I have confirmed that several of my programs that hard lock/freeze my computer are becaue of xorg 6.8.0. Namely; gaim and xffm (xfce4 file manager).
I re-emerged xorg 6.7.0-r2 and everything is back to normal, no lockups, no X crashing etc.
Some people are having problems with gcc 3.4 when using -march=pentium4 (which implies sse2, and which therefore, causes crashes). I haven't tested that using xorg 6.8.0 without sse2, and therefore if anyone is willing to do so please report back ^^.
I just wanted to let anyone know that xorg was the culprit here.
Thank you. |
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Mythos
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| dhalsiim wrote: | Having used xorg 6.8.0 for 2 days I have confirmed that several of my programs that hard lock/freeze my computer are becaue of xorg 6.8.0. Namely; gaim and xffm (xfce4 file manager).
I re-emerged xorg 6.7.0-r2 and everything is back to normal, no lockups, no X crashing etc.
Some people are having problems with gcc 3.4 when using -march=pentium4 (which implies sse2, and which therefore, causes crashes). I haven't tested that using xorg 6.8.0 without sse2, and therefore if anyone is willing to do so please report back ^^.
I just wanted to let anyone know that xorg was the culprit here.
Thank you. |
You problably are an ati user or you have load dri cooment that and xorg stop freezing.
I am at the momment tryng to compile dri from kernel and see what happens!
I don't know if it's a ati problem or dri external problem or xorg problem!
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dhalsiim
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Yes you're right. I'm an ATI user, and using the kernel provided (2.6.9) drm and radeon drivers. I will try commenting #load dri and #load glx, but I can't do that today. Lots of restarts for 1 day I need to do some work .
And it would suck to not be able to use drm, because then all my videos would get fux0red in mplayer >_<; |
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Mythos
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:58 am Post subject: it's a ati driver error |
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Well i have xorg working right now, it's a Ati driver problem i guess, i add to put dri options in kernel and then run xorgconfig, then uncomment dri glx and mode dri ...
It's working fine, but fglrx in games give me more 30 fps ...
well i will wait for next ati drivers!
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glxinfo |grep direct
direct rendering: Yes
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Stuart_Gilbert
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Ugh, after reading this, and being an ATI user I don't think it's worth my time trying over and over... I've tried twice now and been thwarted both times.
The first time stuff just plain didn't work, and it all locked up, so I had to hard-reboot.
The second time (today) I couldn't emerge the new ati-drivers because my version of xorg was too new... WTF?
Do I even need to bother with the ati-drivers at all?
Could I just use the new xorg (presuming it works at all) without emerging the latest ati-drivers?
I'm using fglrx at the moment, and things are ... Well, things are pretty shitty. I can't play DVDs and I can't get my TV-Out working no matter how many things I try. So, is it really worth trying xorg 6.8.0?
Is it worth getting a different video card instead?
Blah, it's so confusing and annoying. |
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Mythos
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| Stuart_Gilbert wrote: | Ugh, after reading this, and being an ATI user I don't think it's worth my time trying over and over... I've tried twice now and been thwarted both times.
The first time stuff just plain didn't work, and it all locked up, so I had to hard-reboot.
The second time (today) I couldn't emerge the new ati-drivers because my version of xorg was too new... WTF?
Do I even need to bother with the ati-drivers at all?
Could I just use the new xorg (presuming it works at all) without emerging the latest ati-drivers?
I'm using fglrx at the moment, and things are ... Well, things are pretty shitty. I can't play DVDs and I can't get my TV-Out working no matter how many things I try. So, is it really worth trying xorg 6.8.0?
Is it worth getting a different video card instead?
Blah, it's so confusing and annoying. |
I have working with no bugs xorg, it's a dri problem and something with fglrx too.
If you have Radeon cards you can try with no problems, but you will lost many fps in games, cuz you have to put go into your kernel config and enable dri.
then you have to xorgconfig, and choose your card generic ...
then it's works fine.
it's a problem of Ati Drivers or some uncompatible with them.
nvidia user's doesn't seem to have many problems.
How to:
/usr/src/linux
make menuconfig
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<M> /dev/agpgart (AGP Support) │ │
│ │ < > ALI chipset support │ │
│ │ < > ATI chipset support │ │
│ │ < > AMD Irongate, 761, and 762 chipset support │ │
│ │ < > AMD Opteron/Athlon64 on-CPU GART support │ │
│ │ < > Intel 440LX/BX/GX, I8xx and E7x05 chipset support │ │
│ │ < > Intel i865 chipset support │ │
│ │ < > NVIDIA nForce/nForce2 chipset support │ │
│ │ < > SiS chipset support │ │
│ │ < > Serverworks LE/HE chipset support │ │
│ │ <M> VIA chipset support │ │
│ │ < > Transmeta Efficeon support │ │
│ │ [*] Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 4.1.0 and higher DRI support) │ │
│ │ < > 3dfx Banshee/Voodoo3+ │ │
│ │ < > 3dlabs GMX 2000 │ │
│ │ < > ATI Rage 128 │ │
│ │ <M> ATI Radeon |
/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6:
| Code: | agpgart
via-agp
radeon |
/etc/X11/xorg.conf:
| Code: | # Device configured by xorgconfig:
# This loads the GLX module
Load "glx"
# This loads the DRI module
Load "dri"
Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Graphics Adapter"
Driver "radeon"
VendorName "ATI"
BoardName "ATI Radeon 9200 SE"
BusID "1:0:0"
Option "DPMS"
Option "EnablePageFlip" "true"
Option "BackingStore" "on"
Option "no_accel" "no"
Option "CenterMode" "on"
EndSection
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
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and voilá
| Code: | glxinfo |grep direct
direct rendering: Yes |
This is a quick solution for those who want 3d accel. but with many fps lost for gamer users.
Wait for new ati drivers, 3.12 is out there, soon they will be in emerge list  i hope ...
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Paranoid
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Hate to disappointment you Mythos but ati-drivers-3.12 don't work with 6.8.
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Mythos
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:40 am Post subject: |
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No problem i have solved temporaly my problem using dri from kernel and agpgart
Ati promisse that at the end of the year thwy will have good drivers lol, let me believe it's truth lol
here is my experience with new xorg, and transparency.
one complain this is a litle bit slow ...
xcompmgr -c ride on !
[img:f2b24f4412]http://kwisatz.no.sapo.pt/desktop.jpg[/img:f2b24f4412]
http://kwisatz.no.sapo.pt/desktop.jpg
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nazgum
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:42 am Post subject: |
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I just wanted to share a fact I found worked for me.
Using the radeon driver (not fglrx) - I found 6.8 very slow with xcompmgr active, and somewhat buggy with shadows enabled.
This was using the 2.6.7 kernel.
Upgrading to the 2.6.8-r3 kernel gave me a big speed increase and improved the stability with shadows on.
I'm guessing the radeon driver in 2.6.8 is a lot better then the 2.6.7 one.
Maybe this'll help someone else
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