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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 3:30 pm    Post subject: Has anyone tried Mozilla 1.1 beta yet? Reply with quote

I'm very very afraid to try this puppy while masked. But I'd love to have the F11 full screen option back.

Are there any reports from out there in the field?


Of note, I've tried the windows version of the puppy (under XP) and it is a FREEZEMONSTER!


In contrast moz 1.0 is quite nice on both platforms and I wouldn't even bother caring if 1.0 under linux hadn't had the fullscreen option removed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the Desktop forum.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have it and it r00ls. I didn't even know about the F11 thing, but I just hit it and it works sweet.

Unmask and go, brother.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rizzo wrote:
Unmask and go, brother.


Or grab the tarball from mozilla.org, and unzip to ~/local
and mv mozilla mozilla-1.1b (that's what I do).

I've noticed... Moz compiled on gentoo does antialiasing,
whereas the mozilla.org tarballs don't.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anti-aliasing isn't a bad thing once you get it working. With 1.1a and 1.1b, anti-aliasing started working right out of the emerge and I've been pleased as punch.

The hour-long compile makes for some boring downtime though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:13 pm    Post subject: if i emerge it : Reply with quote

will mozilla 1.1b coexist with my existing mozilla?, of coarse it will overwrite the link to /bin , but it will install in /usr/lib/mozilla1.1b or something right?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably not by default if you emerge it. For installing in a separate directory, your best best would probably be to download the source yourself and compile it using --prefix=/usr/local/mozilla11b (whatever else you want). That'll allow you to play with it while still easily going back to 1.0.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go ahead and unmask it and emerge unmerge your old mozilla and emerge 1.1b...you'll like it...it hasnt been any problem and its seems way faster then 1.0r-3
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's working pretty well for me, except for one change that REALLY pi$$es me off....

When you right click on a link, it opens a menu where I usually use "Open Link in a new Tab". Well they switched the positions of "open in new tab" and "open in a new window".

Damnit! :)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mellofone wrote:
they switched the positions of "open in new tab" and "open in a new window".


Open in a New Window is on top of the menu for me and always has been, AFAIK.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Open Link in New Window had always been, up until version 1.0, at the top of the menu, with Open Link in New Tab scond in the list (since that feature was added, of course). At version 1.0 they were switched, and with version 1.1a they were switched back to having New Window on top. I, for one, welcome the return. Almost every browser in existance has Open in New Window at the top (except for IE, but we already know it's got issues), and I hated having to actually think about where I needed to click to open links in a new window.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 10:55 pm    Post subject: currently Reply with quote

im currently trying mozilla1.1b from the precompiles version, i just dl and tar -zxvf it to /usr/lib/mozilla1.1b/

and then linked my plugins folder to my 1.0 pluggins directory...works good, but i may just get the source and compile it here soon, any big performance differences between the precompiled and a selfcompiled version? i dont really want to compile the whole damned thing for a beta, id prefer to wait until 1.1 final and just emerge it in..
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I first used the moz1.1b on windows. Worked great. So when I built my gentoo1.3b system with gcc3.2-pre I tried it out. No problems whatsoever. It seems gnome2 is more buggy than the browser. And that says a lot for its stability as a beta.

Great stuff! Try it out!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I tried it but I do not like the stupid d/l Manager.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cr0t wrote:
Yes, I tried it but I do not like the stupid d/l Manager.


Remove it. Edit -> Preferences -> Downloads
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mellofone wrote:
Remove it. Edit -> Preferences -> Downloads


It's actually Edit -> Preferences -> Navigator -> Downloads

You can choose the download manager, the normal progress window, or nothing at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rizzo wrote:
It's actually Edit -> Preferences -> Navigator -> Downloads

You can choose the download manager, the normal progress window, or nothing at all.


I was close enough, Navigator always opens up first anyway :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know, if galeno and plugins already work with gcc3.1??
Mozilla 1.0 can not use java when compiled with 3.1
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i kinda like the download manager feature
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2002 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rizzo wrote:
mellofone wrote:
Remove it. Edit -> Preferences -> Downloads


It's actually Edit -> Preferences -> Navigator -> Downloads

You can choose the download manager, the normal progress window, or nothing at all.

thX ;)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2002 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xorbe wrote:
rizzo wrote:
Unmask and go, brother.


Or grab the tarball from mozilla.org, and unzip to ~/local
and mv mozilla mozilla-1.1b (that's what I do).

I've noticed... Moz compiled on gentoo does antialiasing,
whereas the mozilla.org tarballs don't.

xorbe


because mozilla ebuilds apply a patch to the default unix.js to enable aa.
but you can do it yourself :)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2002 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antialiasing sure looks good, but it's just too slow on my PC... I have a PIII 450mhz, and when browsing sites with lots of dense text, rendering can take whole seconds...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2002 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tactless wrote:
Antialiasing sure looks good, but it's just too slow on my PC... I have a PIII 450mhz, and when browsing sites with lots of dense text, rendering can take whole seconds...


I'm not sure why, but I'm not a big fan of the AA. All of the letters look blurry and squished together. Is that how they are supposed to look?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2002 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some screenshots of mozilla AA @ http://mpillard.free.fr/mozilla (some are quite old... you can see AA before tweaking the prefs and after :) ...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2002 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno. Maybe I am just too used to the way it USED to look pre-AA. It just doesn't look right. Oh well :)
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