FIXED sys-power/upower is blocking sys-power/upower-pm-utils

golding · Last edited by golding on Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:27 pm; edited 1 time in total

I have Systemd already going, and working well, so have had no problems till now.
The new Upower package is causing me no end of trouble as it will not allow me to finish my usual weekly update.

eccerr0r · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:09 pm Post subject:

I still don't quite get how you got away with not merging upower ... I wonder what would happen if you emerge -1 upower first (if it will let you) and then let it fix dependencies?

But for certain the version of cinnamon you have installed is old, and it disappeared from portage (at least according to my copy) and quite possibly it's an orphan package. Did you install it explicitly? Perhaps removing it temporarily would help portage figure out how to update...
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golding · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:26 pm Post subject:

Thankyou, removing cinnamon fixed the problem. That version of cinnamon was installed when I was trying to get around the gnome3 desktop. Mate ended up being more what I wanted.

Anyway, removed ALL cinnamon packages, plus the sabayon overlay I got it from, and now everything installs and resolves nicely.
Personally, I don't know why people are upset about systemd, once you get around the different way of configuring it, it works rather well.
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eccerr0r · Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:39 pm Post subject:

No problem.

Most people who complain about systemd is mostly preferring the legacy "unix" way of doing things. Systemd just throws a wrench into the system and nothing is the way it was. Not only this, it's "new" and has a potential for security holes because it doesn't have as much testing as legacy systems. And the fact that it buys nothing new for certain uses with a whole heck of a lot of dependencies and complexities. Updating existing installations can be a hassle because everything changed - and can require some effort to clean things back up.

I think it's just like other things, try both, like it? use it.

Alas I don't know if the Linux Standard Base will switch over to systemd someday with so many distributions heading that direction.
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nullnullfzu · n00b Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Posts: 7

Bump...

I'm not sure why I'm getting this problem just now. Usually I update my box once a week.

So, let's just say I'm not systemd-ready yet and wouldn't what the hassle just yet.
Having bumped into that upower vs. upower-pm-utils problem I rembered that systemd was pulled in and it is installed. Having tried to uninstall it i got the message "'sys-apps/systemd' (virtual/dev-manager) is part of your system profile."
I use the simple desktop-profile on a notebook. (Must admit, I have the cinnamon layover installed though not using it since it's not usable yet - personal opinion)
How safe is it, to unmerge systemd anyways? And will it stay out until I have the time to turn my system upside down?

Any thoughts much appreciated (even tough ones... though not so much, please ;-)

).

Thanks a lot.

Manuel

eccerr0r · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:43 am Post subject:

Ugh, that would be ugly.

I think people who really don't want systemd should mask systemd just to prevent the uglyness of removing it.
The worry is that if systemd gets installed, it may have replaced your udev, etc. Need to try to mask systemd and see if you can work your away around the dependency nightmare back to a no-systemd state, and then finally depclean systemd.

This won't be an easy task. Maybe if you started a new thread someone could help out with specifics.
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SamuliSuominen · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:54 am Post subject:

Uninstall broken overlays, such as mate-overlay, sabayon-overlay, cinnamon-overlay, enlightenment-overlay, and couple of other known ones, that force 'sys-power/upower' instead of have proper '|| ( sys-power/upower sys-power/upower-pm-utils )' construct in ebuilds
And GNOME 3.12+ will force sys-power/upower no matter what, it's not compatible with sys-power/upower-pm-utils, and some other packages might force sys-power/upower-pm-utils, resulting in a scenario these packages can no longer be installed at the same time

There is Portage news item about this, and threads in forums where it has been answered more comprohensively, so I wonder why refresh this old thread with almost no information...

nullnullfzu · n00b Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Posts: 7

@ssuominen: You are right of course and I thank you for taking the time anyways to give me your thoughts. :oops:

I will put this issue of mine in its own thread once I can point to where I want to go with this.

This is why I ask one last question in this thread:
eix gives me the following:

eccerr0r · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:10 am Post subject:

To tell, which one did you specify in your bootloader (init=/path/to/your/initsoftware in your grub or other bootloader config)?

If you don't have an init= then the default is usually whatever you have /sbin/init set to, and that probably means you're using sysvinit/openrc.

You probably should put your query in your own thread regardless, imho...
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nullnullfzu · n00b Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Posts: 7

thank you