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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That woman is a Democrat too. She says she voted for Hillary, which means she voted in the Democrat primary. Apparently you didn't watch enough of your own video. :lol:


HA! serves me right.

you get the point though. tit for tat all day.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1. It's obviously in joking form.

2. Pointing to a holster is no where near the same as drawing a gun and forcing someone to the ground.'


You know this, which is why your accusation was a total lie.


it's hard to tell what's a joke. pointing at a gun is pretty threatening though.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Muso wrote:
1. It's obviously in joking form.

2. Pointing to a holster is no where near the same as drawing a gun and forcing someone to the ground.'


You know this, which is why your accusation was a total lie.


it's hard to tell what's a joke. pointing at a gun is pretty threatening though.


Thank you. Now I know the mindset that leads to this crap.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

juniper wrote:
Muso wrote:
1. It's obviously in joking form.

2. Pointing to a holster is no where near the same as drawing a gun and forcing someone to the ground.'


You know this, which is why your accusation was a total lie.


it's hard to tell what's a joke. pointing at a gun is pretty threatening though.
Flying off the handle about an SUV is pretty unhinged. And with children around, I'd feel threatened. Pointing at my gun would be polite.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's really bizarre about that woman's behavior is how she hustled over there shouting, gesticulating like a monkey, using profanity, getting in their faces, insulting them, and wagging her finger in their faces, but then when the mother takes a step toward her and tells her to stop swearing around her daughter, she accuses the mother of threatening to punch her.

Apparently, she has no perception of how hostile her behavior was. She deserves to be cited for harassment, and should be fined, referred for a psychological evaluation, and required to attend anger management classes.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't reveal a weapon unless you intend to use it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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juniper wrote:
Muso wrote:
1. It's obviously in joking form.

2. Pointing to a holster is no where near the same as drawing a gun and forcing someone to the ground.'


You know this, which is why your accusation was a total lie.


it's hard to tell what's a joke. pointing at a gun is pretty threatening though.
Flying off the handle about an SUV is pretty unhinged. And with children around, I'd feel threatened. Pointing at my gun would be polite.


of course she flew off the handle and it was uncalled for. But do you think it requires a response with a weapon? even a threat?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already answered in the post you quoted. Also, see BK's last post.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, he doesn't want to have an intelligent conversation. He'd rather beat a dead horse about somebody's obvious hyperbole, because it had the word "gun" in it, and he's obsessed with guns.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I already answered in the post you quoted. Also, see BK's last post.


"Pointing at my gun would be polite."

Guns guns guns! I am pretty sure that homer said that beer was the solution (and cause) of all problems. Not guns.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just have a phobia. It is irrational.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

juniper

Take 86 seconds and watch this.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Take 86 seconds and watch this.


It's an old document.

The certainly have a leg up on other writers though. I think they did pack a lot of good ideas in that document. many constitutions are based on it. Funny, however, the 2nd amendment was seldom copied.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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juniper

Take 86 seconds and watch this.


It's an old document.

The certainly have a leg up on other writers though. I think they did pack a lot of good ideas in that document. many constitutions are based on it. Funny, however, the 2nd amendment was seldom copied.


And the results in Europe during the 20th century show why it was foolish not to copy it.

Either you believe humans have the right of self defense, or you believe in authoritarianism.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And the results in Europe during the 20th century show why it was foolish not to copy it.

Either you believe humans have the right of self defense, or you believe in authoritarianism.


no.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Guns guns guns! I am pretty sure that homer said that beer was the solution (and cause) of all problems. Not guns.
You've failed to recognize and / or acknowledge the threat presented by the unhinged woman in the proximity of a child (or children). Maybe she was drunk on beer.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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juniper wrote:
Guns guns guns! I am pretty sure that homer said that beer was the solution (and cause) of all problems. Not guns.
You've failed to recognize and / or acknowledge the threat presented by the unhinged woman in the proximity of a child (or children). Maybe she was drunk on beer.


she was being threatening though, I admit. I forgot about the kids. I wouldn't like some belligerent fuck mouthing off in front of my kids (unless it's me!). but guns won't help. if I was pretty sure she didn't have a gun, that would be far less threatening. and, outside of the US, likely no gun. therefore, just tell her to fuck off. you don't need a gun.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
juniper wrote:
Guns guns guns! I am pretty sure that homer said that beer was the solution (and cause) of all problems. Not guns.
You've failed to recognize and / or acknowledge the threat presented by the unhinged woman in the proximity of a child (or children). Maybe she was drunk on beer.
please... she wasn't being threatening... loud, obnoxious, rude sure... but not threatening... spend some time in France, you will get use to some smelly loud incoherent ranting in close proximity BUT outside your personal space and that is just someone being self-righteous and can be ignored.

she has every right to voice her opinion no matter how hypocritical or wrong... I would still defend her right to voice it. If the owner felt she was threatening his children then he could have asked her to back away (or asked the children to get "inside"), he didn't so he didn't feel this woman posed a physical threat. Now say she refused or got more aggressive sure then there is grounds for escalation but right now... she is just the laughing stock of the internet... also video is from 2011...
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