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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how but I got my problem fixed.

I think I forgot some drivers in my kernel config.
I'm using now kernel 2.6.0 test11 and it works fine for me.
I emerged alsa-utils serveral times after I reconfigured my kernel, in every possible way.
My kernel settings are as follows:
Code:
<M> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
<M> Sequencer support
< >  Sequencer dummy client
<*> OSS API emulation
<M> OSS Mixer API
<M> OSS PCM (digital audio) API
<*> OSS Sequencer API
[ ]   Verbose printk
[ ]   Debug
       Generic devices  --->
       PCI devices  --->
       ALSA USB devices  --->

In the section PCI devices I found my sound Card:
Code:
<M> VIA 82C686A/B 8233 South Bridge

it's the onboard sound card on the ASUS A7V8X (chipset Northbridge: VIA KT400 and Southbridge: VIA VT8235)
then I did:
Code:
# make && make modules_install
# mount /dev/hda2 (my boot partition)
# cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/

then rebooted
and:
Code:
# emerge alsa-lib alsa-utils
# update-modules

DO NOT emerge alsa-driver (it's in the kernel)
for unmuting my card I tried both of these (both worked well), either:
Code:
# amixer set Master 100 unmute
# amixer set PCM 100 unmute

OR

# alsamixer (and unmute then what you need, do not forget to turn the volume up)

to save the setting for every restart, I did:
Code:
# rc-update add alsasound boot
# alsactl store


This works fine for me,
hth
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding was that you do not have to emerge alsa-libs or alsa-utils after a kernel recompile, but you do have to for alsa-driver if you do not include the drivers in the kernel.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I think thats correct, you don't have to recompile it. But if you didn't emerge alsa-lib and -utils before you won't be able to unmute your card.
What the alsa-driver is concerned I think you have to. I did use the kernel intern driver. It works quite well!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I've got mine working now but I had to enable devfs again. I had completely turned it off and unmerged it. I would have thought that since ALSA is part of 2.6 that they would have got it to work without devfs. Strange. And I seem to have suffered a big drop in MIDI performance. I use sfxload to load in SoundFonts for my DOS games in DOSEMU. It wasn't perfect before but now even just playing a MIDI on the command line with pmidi seems to suffer from slowdowns.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still having issues!

I've tried pretty much every suggestion I've seen here as well as a few variations of my own.

Everything seems to be working correctly, but I have no output. Not as root or my normal user.

I'm using kernel 2.6test11 with a Intel 810 chipset. Everything is compiled as modules (built-in does not work either) and my kernel is configured like this:

Code:

<M> Sound card support

<M> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
<M>   Sequencer support
< >     Sequencer dummy client
[*]   OSS API emulation
<M>     OSS Mixer API
<M>     OSS PCM (digital audio) API
[*]     OSS Sequencer API
[ ]   Verbose printk
[ ]   Debug

PCI devices

<M> Intel i8x0/MX440, SiS 7012; Ali 5455; NForce Audio; AMD768/8111


I have snd-pcm-oss in my /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 and /etc/init.d/alsasound seems to startup fine.

This is what my /etc/modules.conf looks like.

Code:

### modules-update: start processing /etc/modules.d/alsa
# ALSA portion
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
# module options should go here

# OSS/Free portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0

# card #1
# alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
# alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
# alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
# alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
# alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss


And this is my amixer output:

Code:

Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 63
  Front Left: Playback 63 [100%] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 63 [100%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Master Mono',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono: Playback 31 [100%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 63
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [off]
Simple mixer control '3D Control - Center',0
  Capabilities: volume volume-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: 0 - 15
  Mono: 15 [100%]
Simple mixer control '3D Control - Depth',0
  Capabilities: volume volume-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: 0 - 15
  Mono: 15 [100%]
Simple mixer control '3D Control - Switch',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'PCM Out Path & Mute',0
  Capabilities:
  Mono:
Simple mixer control 'Line',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off]
  Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'CD',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off]
  Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Mono
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [off]
  Front Left: Capture [on]
  Front Right: Capture [on]
Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost (+20dB)',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0
  Capabilities:
  Mono:
Simple mixer control 'Video',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off]
  Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Phone',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Mono
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono: Playback 31 [100%] [on]
  Front Left: Capture [off]
  Front Right: Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'PC Speaker',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 15
  Mono: Playback 15 [100%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Aux',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off]
  Front Right: Playback 31 [100%] [on] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Mono Output Select',0
  Capabilities:
  Mono:
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 15
  Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [on]
  Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Mix',0
  Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Front Left: Capture [off]
  Front Right: Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Mix Mono',0
  Capabilities: cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclusive
  Capture exclusive group: 0
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Front Left: Capture [off]
  Front Right: Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'Digital Audio Mode',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'Digital Mono Direct',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier Power Down',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'Low Power Mixer',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'Zero Fill DAC',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]


Am I missing anything? Can anyone notice anything I've done wrong? Do I need to recompile anything in Gnome or otherwise to get it to correctly utilise the sound card? I've tried everything I can find and as I'm not getting any errors I'm finding it hard to progress - any help would be greatly appreciated!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens when you compile in sound support and ALSA rather than use modules.

I'm using the i810 here also, but I have verything compiled in except for the i810 module.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did it work at any time before you tryed to install it to gentoo?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm having the same problem with no sound output, no errors. My sound was working in 2.4, when I compiled 2.6.0-test11 sound was working when i booted into 2.6.0-test11. However I think during the process before I went to bed i ran an update-modules - I think this could have caused my sound to stop as it might have been using the sound modules from 2.4.20. Then when I woke up this morning there was no sound at all, there's no errors, xmms plays the song but no output, my mixer levels are all 100% but when i try amixer set Master 100 unmute the unmute command never worked, however sound still worked in 2.4 without the unmute part...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After booting back into 2.4.20-gentoo-r9 emerge unmerging gentoo-dev-sources removing alsa-lib, utils recompiling kernel, installing alsa-driver, lib, utils again, putting the same settings as i had when sound was working in 2.4.20, and surprise surpise no sound output, channels arent muted, sound card works, im in windows now and sound works... I give up on gentoo i'm going back to windows where things don't stop working all of a sudden then refuse to work without some major work or reinstallation.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@raab
what did you do exactly after you booted the first time in the 2.6 test11 kernel?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing, sound just worked.. I fixed my problem in 2.4.20, it seems to be a problem with alsa 0.98 so i installed 0.92 and got sound working again, but no matter what i do in 2.6.0-test11 i can't get sound going at all
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you do all I did and what I posted on Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:43 pm?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, i'm basically having the same problem with no sound output accept im using an audigy, which uses the emu10k1 chipset
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be possible you have the wrong driver selected in the kernel config.
did you try different drivers?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's only one option for emu10k1 ..

Edit: i've got it working, somehow.. with alsa lib, utils 0.92

Edit 2: that was short lived, quit out of kde, then back in and it stopped working

Edit 3: ok now its definately working, lol.. cheers
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

would you please post how you got it to work...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, basically I followed the same kernel configuration, everything as modules.

Next I emerged alsa-lib-0.9.2.ebuild, then alsa-utils-0.9.2.ebuild, ran alsamixer increased the master volume to 100, started kde and sound worked..

However I think i've come to an understanding of why my sound would refuse to work, kde 3.2.0b2 .. I was testing sound in 3.1.4 and it was working fine, closed and opened kde 3.1.4 a few times, rebooted.. sound worked.. changed over to 3.2.0b2 and sound stopped working completely, even when i went back to 3.1.4 no sound. So i'm getting rid of 3.2.0b2 for the time being.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about the lack of details but its 3 in the morning and im about to hit the sack :p

I've just tried 1.0rc2 and it works fine, so it must've been kde 3.2.0 beta all this time.. doh
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no problem at 3 am i'd be too tired for this either.
you must live somewhere near samoa right?
when it's 3 am at your place...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

m@o,
thanks I've recompiled and it works great using your guide...
however

I get 2 modprobe fatal errors when booting (sounds works still)

Code:

modprobe: FATAL: module snd_card_0 not found.


right, I can get rid of this by defining what snd_card_0 is in /etc/modules.d/alsa but my doing so I get more errors saying that the modules for my card are already loaded

the second is
Code:

FATAL: snd_seq_oss is already in kernel


above sounds right since I see it get loaded before, so why is it doing it again? If I define what snd_card_0 is I get multiple "already loaded" errors. If I comment it out I get the above two.

here is my /etc/modules.d/alsa file
Code:

# Alsa 0.9.X kernel modules' configuration file.
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-utils/files/alsa-modules.conf-rc,v 1.1 2003/08/05 21:07:55 johnm Exp $
                                                                                                                                                           
# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
                                                                                                                                                           
##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
##
##  ALSA portion
## alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
##  OSS/Free portion
## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##
                                                                                                                                                           
# OSS/Free portion - card #1
## alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
## alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
## alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
                                                                                                                                                           
# Set this to the correct number of cards.
options snd cards_limit=1


I've using emu10k1 as a module in the kernel
NOTE: I've pretty much got the whole thing commented out :/

ideas?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried about everything in this topic/post. And I can't get sound to work. I've compiled in everything as modules. Take a look at my setup and please let me know what I've done wrong. I think I've got everything loaded properly, but can't get amixer to work.

Code:

<M> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
<M> Sequencer support
< >  Sequencer dummy client
<*> OSS API emulation
<M> OSS Mixer API
<M> OSS PCM (digital audio) API
<*> OSS Sequencer API
[ ]   Verbose printk
[ ]   Debug

<M> EMU10K1 (SB Live! & Audigy, E-mu APS)

Then copied kernel to /boot and rebooted.
Code:

root # lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
snd_pcm_oss            52708  -
snd_pcm               100516  -
snd_page_alloc         11780  -
snd_timer              25956  -
snd_mixer_oss          18880  -
snd                    54244  -
sr_mod                 16612  -
cdrom                  34816  -
ide_scsi               15108  -
tuner                  15052  -
tvaudio                21996  -
bttv                  137100  -
video_buf              22244  -
i2c_algo_bit            9800  -
btcx_risc               4552  -
i2c_core               24776  -
v4l2_common             4352  -
videodev                9152  -
nvidia               1700684  -
tulip                  45568  -
crc32                   4096  -

Code:

root # /etc/init.d/alsasound start
 * Loading ALSA drivers...
 * Loading: snd-mixer-oss
FATAL: Module snd_mixer_oss already in kernel.
 * Loading: snd-pcm-oss
FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss already in kernel.
 * Loading: snd-seq-oss
 * Loading: snd_emu10k1
FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1 already in kernel.
 * Loading: snd-emu10k1-synth
FATAL: Module snd_emu10k1_synth already in kernel.
 * Loading: snd-seq-midi
FATAL: Module snd_seq_midi already in kernel.
 * Loading: snd-seq-oss
FATAL: Module snd_seq_oss already in kernel.
 * Running card-dependent scripts
 * Restoring Mixer Levels
/usr/sbin/alsactl: set_controls:986: snd_ctl_open error: No such file or direct  [ ok ]

Code:

root # lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
snd_seq_midi            8512  -
snd_emu10k1_synth       7616  -
snd_emux_synth         37184  -
snd_seq_virmidi         6944  -
snd_seq_midi_emul       7872  -
snd_emu10k1            97668  -
snd_rawmidi            24864  -
snd_ac97_codec         61732  -
snd_util_mem            4480  -
snd_hwdep               9184  -
snd_seq_oss            34560  -
snd_seq_midi_event      7616  -
snd_seq                56144  -
snd_seq_device          8264  -
snd_pcm_oss            52708  -
snd_pcm               100516  -
snd_page_alloc         11780  -
snd_timer              25956  -
snd_mixer_oss          18880  -
snd                    54244  -
sr_mod                 16612  -
cdrom                  34816  -
ide_scsi               15108  -
tuner                  15052  -
tvaudio                21996  -
bttv                  137100  -
video_buf              22244  -
i2c_algo_bit            9800  -
btcx_risc               4552  -
i2c_core               24776  -
v4l2_common             4352  -
videodev                9152  -
nvidia               1700684  -
tulip                  45568  -
crc32                   4096  -

Code:

root # amixer
amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you emerge'd alsa-lib, utils? Other than 0.98 which seems to not create /dev/sound
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raab wrote:

Have you emerge'd alsa-lib, utils? Other than 0.98 which seems to not create /dev/sound

Yes...I emerged alsa-lib and utils 1.0rc2.
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