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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:14 am    Post subject: Ground Control to Major Tux: ISS Switches Laptops to Linux Reply with quote

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Ground control to Major Tux: Space station dumps Windows, now uses Linux

For reasons involving reliability — which is semi-kinda important in low-Earth orbit, apparently — our fellow nerds living aboard the International Space Station have made the switch from Windows to Linux for astronauts’ laptops.

The space nerds will get training from the Linux Foundation for the upgrade to Debian 6. The foundation has actually customized two courses specifically for NASA astronauts’ needs, including a basic Linux user course and more advanced coursework on how to develop applications for Linux.

Previously, the laptops aboard the ISS had been running Windows XP.

The United Space Alliance manages the NASA/ISS computers. A United Space Alliance spokesperson told press the switch was made because ISS astronauts and cosmonauts needed an operating system “that was stable and reliable.”

Ouch!

http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/10/iss-linux/
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably got sick of the open windows of death. Not nice in a space station.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd be surprised to know how many of these mission critical systems use Windows.

ATMs use Windows.

EMC Storage has an OS based on Win2k, called FLARE (or some part of it according to the wiki here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clariion#Architecture) and so on...

It wasn't just slapping OEM PCs with Windows, that made Bill rich.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, it was the foot in the door.

If everybody is used to windows, it comes naturally to put it somewhere where it does not belong. Like ATMs or servers.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like an STD.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
It's like an STD.


worse! With an STD you have had fun at least at one point...
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but both come from putting something somewhere it doesn't belong
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True :)

It's like being slipped a rufie and waking up the next day with an STD.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
but both come from putting something somewhere it doesn't belong


btw, why did so many civil war era officers catch gonorrhoe at West Point?
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
It's like an STD.


Fun to get, but not fun to have?
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BoneKracker wrote:
but both come from putting something somewhere it doesn't belong


btw, why did so many civil war era officers catch gonorrhoe at West Point?

It's a good question. There is a book entitled The Class of 1846 which might hold some clues, if you're interested. My guess would be it was from banging the same hussies outside the gates down in Highland Falls.

Another book, Prostitution and Victorian Society, says that venereal disease was absolutely rampant in the mid-1800s.

One of the reasons for this was that nobody taught anybody about it or talked about it, and if you got it, you didn't want anybody to find out. Doctors were barely beginning to understand the diseases themselves and were pretty much engaging in quackery as far as treatment goes.

The treatments of the day were probably influenced by the attitudes of the time and were "appropriately" punitive. Syphilis was treated by application of mercury to the lesions (extremely painful) over a long period of time. Gonorrhea was treated by cauterization of infected mucus membranes of the genitals. (That's cauterization, not catheterization.)

Military forces, which isolate men from women except for brief campaigns of debauchery, have always readily availed themselves of the services of prostitutes. During the 1860s, roughly one-third of military sick-call patients were STD cases. In those times, you weren't about to get your girlfriend (or any "nice girl" of your own standing) to have sex with you while you were home on leave, so I imagine a lot of these guys, and a lot of other single men in general, were tappin' dat nazty ass (and paying the price).
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back on topic: If there was ever a good fit for Plan 9, this was it.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What? You've used Plan9?

Your comment was satirical?
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of Aladdin Sane: ISS Space Oddity Cover version.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
What? You've used Plan9?

Your comment was satirical?

Plan 9 is from Outer Space.
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BoneKracker wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
but both come from putting something somewhere it doesn't belong


btw, why did so many civil war era officers catch gonorrhoe at West Point?

It's a good question. There is a book entitled The Class of 1846 which might hold some clues, if you're interested. My guess would be it was from banging the same hussies outside the gates down in Highland Falls.

Another book, Prostitution and Victorian Society, says that venereal disease was absolutely rampant in the mid-1800s.

One of the reasons for this was that nobody taught anybody about it or talked about it, and if you got it, you didn't want anybody to find out. Doctors were barely beginning to understand the diseases themselves and were pretty much engaging in quackery as far as treatment goes.

The treatments of the day were probably influenced by the attitudes of the time and were "appropriately" punitive. Syphilis was treated by application of mercury to the lesions (extremely painful) over a long period of time. Gonorrhea was treated by cauterization of infected mucus membranes of the genitals. (That's cauterization, not catheterization.)

Military forces, which isolate men from women except for brief campaigns of debauchery, have always readily availed themselves of the services of prostitutes. During the 1860s, roughly one-third of military sick-call patients were STD cases. In those times, you weren't about to get your girlfriend (or any "nice girl" of your own standing) to have sex with you while you were home on leave, so I imagine a lot of these guys, and a lot of other single men in general, were tappin' dat nazty ass (and paying the price).


only a filthy liberal hippie would accuse the heroes of the great nation to have any interaction with such women at all.

No! It can't be!

They probably had butt sex with each other.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:41 am    Post subject: finally a NASA success again Reply with quote

windows ejected from airlock

hm, yes, Linux is only for hobbyists :roll:

anyway, since they didn't go to mars already, they at least got rid of windows!

what a wonder that this whole space station didn't explode already since they got windows so long up there...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you are mistaken about Windows' stability.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

probably. But if you choose an operating system for outer space missions it would be strange if you choose a system that is made for your grandparents that they aren't frightened when they see a computer.

moreover astronauts aren't retarded or old, so they can handle a serious system (it doesn't have to be linux of course, but definitely not a consumer system).

what systems do you have in the army?
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LoTeK wrote:
probably. But if you choose an operating system for outer space missions it would be strange if you choose a system that is made for your grandparents that they aren't frightened when they see a computer.

moreover astronauts aren't retarded or old, so they can handle a serious system (it doesn't have to be linux of course, but definitely not a consumer system).

what systems do you have in the army?


Old people can't handle a serious operating system?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, no, I just remember that I've read somewhere "you can't install gentoo on your grandfathers computer without a nice GUI, otherwise he get frightened" and found it quite funny...

so I apologize if some of the older people here read this! -> since the gentoo community seems to get older, it would be the other way round in the sense that young people can't do anything besides clicking and touching...

but what I remember too is that you once wrote that the linux desktop is a failure (without an explanation). If I forget my ideology and my rather strong feelings against M$ and apple, I'd say those three desktops are completely even (in the positive and negative sense).

So maybe you fit in the stereotype of the old and "everything new is bad" cliche? (assumed you used M$ your whole computer life?!)
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I decided to reinstall my Server 2008 R2 install and *not* install all the updates and it's as solid as a rock and FAST. It's always the updates that slow it down.

I have to say, I am majorly missing Gentoo at the moment though :cry:
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isn't this a dupe?
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I have to say, I am majorly missing Gentoo at the moment though :cry:


Three or four years cold turkey myself, I do miss the emerge - tinkering with config files ...
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LoTeK wrote:
probably. But if you choose an operating system for outer space missions it would be strange if you choose a system that is made for your grandparents that they aren't frightened when they see a computer.

moreover astronauts aren't retarded or old, so they can handle a serious system (it doesn't have to be linux of course, but definitely not a consumer system).

what systems do you have in the army?

I wasn't in the Army, I was in the Marine Corps. While I won't discuss server systems, we used Windows XP for our workstation OS. This was in 2009.

EDIT: Have you tried Windows XP x64? Hardly anybody seems to know it exists. It doesn't have a lot of driver support, nor does it have all those hacks to make third-party software compatible, but it's as solid as a rock.
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