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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 6:04 pm    Post subject: Cinnamon: how to? Reply with quote

Hi guys!
I tried a Cinnamon on arch last week and decided to try it on gentoo, because arch can't handle him without gnome-session.
So I have two questions:
1. Is it possible to bind Cinnamon to any DM except gdm/gnome-session?
2. If it is, where can I found detailed manual about it? (something like kde installation article on wiki)

Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: Cinnamon: how to? Reply with quote

creaker wrote:
Hi guys!
I tried a Cinnamon on arch last week and decided to try it on gentoo, because arch can't handle him without gnome-session.
So I have two questions:
1. Is it possible to bind Cinnamon to any DM except gdm/gnome-session?
2. If it is, where can I found detailed manual about it? (something like kde installation article on wiki)

Thanks in advance


Take this with a grain of salt, since I am not a gnome user, but from my understanding, cinnamon is just a replacement for gnome-shell with a vintage layout, so, it wouldn't surprise me if it needed gnome to be built, and, of course, to run.

You can however use whatever login manager you prefer, gdm is probably not mandatory (just edit /etc/conf.d/xdm and set it to lightdm, xdm, kdm, or whatever you prefer).

As for running cinnamon, it would surprise me if it works standalone. If all you want is a windows-like taskbar and a menu, there are smaller projects that can work separately, such as lxpanel or xfce4-panel.
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably you are right regarding to use xfce. I have xfce installed as well, but the main thing I dislike in it is a panel. Menu and windows are not so bad. I tried a numerous of themes but xfce panel still ugly.
I just would like to leave periodically my kde for some fresh look and feel. Cinnamon looks fine, but totally unuseable when typing due to traditional keyboard switching is broken and could not be configured in legacy state (Ctrl+Shif or Alt+Shift).
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Cinnamon: how to? Reply with quote

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creaker wrote:
Hi guys!
I tried a Cinnamon on arch last week and decided to try it on gentoo, because arch can't handle him without gnome-session.
So I have two questions:
1. Is it possible to bind Cinnamon to any DM except gdm/gnome-session?
2. If it is, where can I found detailed manual about it? (something like kde installation article on wiki)

Thanks in advance


Take this with a grain of salt, since I am not a gnome user, but from my understanding, cinnamon is just a replacement for gnome-shell with a vintage layout, so, it wouldn't surprise me if it needed gnome to be built, and, of course, to run.

You can however use whatever login manager you prefer, gdm is probably not mandatory (just edit /etc/conf.d/xdm and set it to lightdm, xdm, kdm, or whatever you prefer).

As for running cinnamon, it would surprise me if it works standalone. If all you want is a windows-like taskbar and a menu, there are smaller projects that can work separately, such as lxpanel or xfce4-panel.

YOu don't need gnome per-say to build Cinnamon. It has forked the window-manager of GNOME3 (mutter --> muffin, they rebase against mutter to get new shinies), they then just adapted it to provide a "traditional layout". It does use some of the gnome services though
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cinnamon-1.8 just released. Tons of new improvements and features, and you no longer need to use gnome-control-center. Also, Cinnamon no longer uses gnome-session for fallback, and now has so-called “Desklets.”

KDE calls them Plasmoids, Android calls them Widgets, in Cinnamon they’re called “Desklets”. The same way you can add applets to your panel, you can add desklets to your desktop.

http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?p=261

Is there a working 1.8 ebuild not in the portage tree yet, or is it likely a simple rename of 1.6.7-r1 and re-digest would work?
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wrc1944 wrote:
Cinnamon-1.8 just released.......
.... http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?p=261


I've just read the news under your link. Promised a new keybinding manager... I wonder when it will appear in portage tree?
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah- wish I knew. I like to use Cinnamon as a backup and occasional substitute for kde.

I can't even get it yet on my Mint installs using the "unstable" (Romeo) repo. They said earlier on the Mint blog (or forum) it would be ported in Romeo in a few days, but so far nothing.

I looked online in the Mint soure directory at http://packages.linuxmint.com/pool/main/c/cinnamon , and the

cinnamon_1.8.2+olivia.tar.gz 2013-May-07 08:02:59 4.1M application/octet-stream package

is there, so I guess if we had a working ebuild we could try emerging it.

On the other hand, I don't know if the "+olivia.tar.gz" designation is an actual source package format that portage can use.

Maybe some kind ebuild expert will edit the 1.6.7 ebuild properly, and we can put it in an overlay, unless there's alreadys plans to add it to portage fairly soon.


UPDATE: Just found this from the Mint dev at: http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2013/05/only-one-bug-left

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clem May 4, 2013 01:33

Mint 13 is the LTS, so the focus would be primarily on getting a great Mint 15 release and then on backporting to Mint 13. After that we can look into backporting to Mint 14… we’ve got an automated build system for this, but it comes down to focus and testing, no promises here.

With that said, it’s likely to get into Romeo, for both Maya and Nadia, once 1.8.0 is out and prior to Mint 15 being released.


So, I'm not sure what's going on exactly....
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I understood, cinnamon 1.8 will not be in public access until Mint15-RC out (it should be this month). At least officially. Mint15 RC is their main goal, not a backporting to Mint 13/14.
So we have to wait...
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cinnamon and it's source was publicly released, you will have to more than likely write your own ebuild but make sure you find all it's dependencies and there version numbers (make sure they're even available in the portage tree) cinnamon 1.8.1 is already under arch linux.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rukiri wrote:
Cinnamon and it's source was publicly released, you will have to more than likely write your own ebuild but make sure you find all it's dependencies and there version numbers (make sure they're even available in the portage tree) cinnamon 1.8.1 is already under arch linux.


Yes, I got it (1.8.1) in my Arch today with last update. It is exactly the same cinnamon that I had before update - 1.6.7. All the new things (new Control Center, desklets, Nemo's switchable side panel, filesystems free space bar) I had in 1.6.7. The only thing was changed - "About" menu shows now 1.8.0 instead 1.6.7. It is just renaming.
I'm not experienced in ebuilds, so I think it appears in portage tree faster than I can build it myself :D
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Creaker,
You mean what they said about:
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Cinnamon 1.8 represents 7 months of development and 1,075 commits. It features a lot of bug fixes but also brand new features and many improvements
is just just a bunch of hype, and that it really is just a rename?

FWIW, I find that difficult to believe, unless the first Arch Linux package they put out hasn't implemented some the the changes yet, which also having run Arch for many years I also find it difficult to believe. Of course I could be wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I put it wrong. Of course, a lot of fixes was put in latest update. Above I wrote about visible GUI changes. I did not noticed any visible changes from 1.6.7 to 1.8.1.
Not surprisingly that new things were available in 1.6.7. I think it was a test bed for 1.8.1.
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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a live ebuild I managed to get it running with practically 0 edits to the 1.6 ebuild, now I did remove version numbers and updated them or left them alone but the ebuild works and is pretty stable.

If you do NOT want to run a live ebuild you can still install it just fine with this ebuild, just remove the egit command and add this to src_uri.
https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/archive/1.8.2.tar.gz


Code:
# Copyright 1999-2012 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: Cinnamon Live ebuild

EAPI="5"
GCONF_DEBUG="no"
GNOME2_LA_PUNT="yes"
PYTHON_COMPAT=( python{2_6,2_7} )
PYTHON_REQ_USE="xml"

inherit autotools eutils gnome2 multilib pax-utils python-single-r1

DESCRIPTION="A fork of GNOME Shell with layout similar to GNOME 2 GIT VERSION"
HOMEPAGE="http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/"

SRC_URI=""
EGIT_REPO_URI="git://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon.git"

LICENSE="GPL-2+"
SLOT="0"
IUSE="+git +alsa +pulseaudio aalib altivec bzip2 curl dbus debug doc exif +gnome +gtk postscript jpeg jpeg2k lcms mmx mng pdf png python smp sse svg tiff udev webkit wmf xpm +bluetooth +networkmanager"
KEYWORDS="~amd64 ~x86"

DEPEND="dev-vcs/git"

COMMON_DEPEND="dev-libs/glib
           dev-libs/gjs
           dev-libs/gobject-introspection
           x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf[introspection]
           >=x11-libs/gtk+-3.8.1[introspection]
           >=media-libs/clutter-1.14.0[introspection]
           media-libs/cogl[introspection]
           app-misc/ca-certificates
           dev-libs/json-glib
           >=gnome-base/gnome-desktop-3.8.1[introspection]
           >=gnome-base/gsettings-desktop-schemas-3.8.0
           media-libs/gstreamer
           media-libs/gst-plugins-base
           net-libs/libsoup[introspection]
           sys-auth/polkit[introspection]
           x11-wm/muffin[introspection]

            dev-libs/dbus-glib
           dev-libs/libxml2
           x11-libs/pango[introspection]
           dev-libs/libcroco
   
           gnome-base/gconf[introspection]
           >=gnome-base/gnome-menus-3.8.0[introspection]
           >=gnome-base/librsvg-2.36.4
           media-libs/libcanberra
           media-sound/pulseaudio
   
           x11-libs/startup-notification
           x11-libs/libX11
           >=x11-libs/libXfixes
           x11-apps/mesa-progs
   
           ${PYTHON_DEPS}
   
           bluetooth? ( net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth[introspection] )
           networkmanager? (
                   gnome-base/libgnome-keyring
                   >=net-misc/networkmanager-0.9.8.0[introspection] )"
                
RDEPEND="${COMMON_DEPEND}
           >=gnome-base/dconf-0.16.0
           >=gnome-base/libgnomekbd-3.6.0[introspection]
           sys-power/upower[introspection]
   
           >=gnome-base/gnome-session-3.8.1
   
           >=gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.0
           gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.0-r1
   
           >=sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.14[introspection]
   
           >=app-accessibility/caribou-0.3
   
           x11-misc/xdg-utils
   
           dev-python/dbus-python[${PYTHON_USEDEP}]
           dev-python/gconf-python:2
           dev-python/imaging
           dev-python/lxml
   
           >=x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-symbolic-3.8.0.1
   
           dev-python/pygobject:3[${PYTHON_USEDEP}]
   
           gnome-extra/nemo
   
           || (
                   app-admin/openrc-settingsd
                   >=sys-apps/systemd-30
                   <gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.3.5 )
   
           networkmanager? (
                   net-misc/mobile-broadband-provider-info
                   sys-libs/timezone-data )"
DEPEND="${COMMON_DEPEND}
           >=sys-devel/gettext-0.17
           virtual/pkgconfig
           >=dev-util/intltool-0.40
           gnome-base/gnome-common
           !!=dev-lang/spidermonkey-1.8.2*"
# libmozjs.so is picked up from /usr/lib while compiling, so block at build-time
# https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=360413
   
S="${WORKDIR}/linuxmint-Cinnamon-5ab432d"

pkg_setup() {
    python-single-r1_pkg_setup
}

src_prepare() {
   # Gentoo uses /usr/libexec
   sed -e "s:/usr/lib/gnome-session/gnome-session-check-accelerated:${EPREFIX}/usr/libexec/gnome-session-check-accelerated:" \
      -i "files/usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/cinnamon.session" || die "sed 1 failed"

   # Gentoo uses /usr/$(get_libdir), not /usr/lib even for python
   sed -e "s:/usr/lib/:/usr/$(get_libdir)/:" \
      -e 's:"/usr/lib":"/usr/'"$(get_libdir)"'":' \
      -i files/usr/bin/cinnamon-menu-editor \
      -i files/usr/bin/cinnamon-settings \
      -i files/usr/lib/cinnamon-menu-editor/Alacarte/config.py \
      -i files/usr/lib/cinnamon-menu-editor/Alacarte/MainWindow.py \
      -i files/usr/lib/cinnamon-settings/cinnamon-settings.py || die "sed 2 failed"
   if [[ "$(get_libdir)" != lib ]]; then
      mv files/usr/lib "files/usr/$(get_libdir)" || die "mv failed"
   fi

   if ! use bluetooth; then
      rm -rv files/usr/share/cinnamon/applets/bluetooth@cinnamon.org || die
   fi

   if ! use networkmanager; then
      rm -rv files/usr/share/cinnamon/applets/network@cinnamon.org || die
   fi

   eautoreconf
   gnome2_src_prepare

   # Drop G_DISABLE_DEPRECATED for sanity on glib upgrades; bug #384765
   # Note: sed Makefile.in because it is generated from several Makefile.ams
   sed -e 's/-DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED//g' \
      -i src/Makefile.in browser-plugin/Makefile.in || die "sed 3 failed"
}

src_configure() {
   # Don't error out on warnings
   gnome2_src_configure \
      --enable-compile-warnings=maximum \
      --disable-schemas-compile \
      --disable-jhbuild-wrapper-script \
      $(use_with bluetooth) \
      $(use_enable networkmanager) \
      --with-ca-certificates="${EPREFIX}/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt" \
      BROWSER_PLUGIN_DIR="${EPREFIX}/usr/$(get_libdir)/nsbrowser/plugins"
}

src_configure() {
    # Don't error out on warnings
    gnome2_src_configure \
       --enable-compile-warnings=maximum \
       --disable-schemas-compile \
       --disable-jhbuild-wrapper-script \
       $(use_with bluetooth) \
       $(use_enable networkmanager) \
       --with-ca-certificates="${EPREFIX}/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt" \
       BROWSER_PLUGIN_DIR="${EPREFIX}/usr/$(get_libdir)/nsbrowser/plugins"
}

src_install() {
    gnome2_src_install
     python_optimize "${ED}usr/$(get_libdir)/cinnamon-"{settings,menu-editor}
    # Fix broken shebangs
    sed -e "s%#!.*python%#!$(python_get_PYTHON)%" \
        -i "${ED}usr/bin/cinnamon-"{launcher,menu-editor,settings} \
        -i "${ED}usr/$(get_libdir)/cinnamon-settings/cinnamon-settings.py" || die
   
    # Required for gnome-shell on hardened/PaX, bug #398941
    pax-mark mr "${ED}usr/bin/cinnamon"
}

pkg_postinst() {
   gnome2_pkg_postinst

   if ! has_version '>=media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.23:0.10' || \
      ! has_version 'media-plugins/gst-plugins-vp8:0.10'; then
      ewarn "To make use of Cinnamon's built-in screen recording utility,"
      ewarn "you need to either install >=media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.23:0.10"
      ewarn "and media-plugins/gst-plugins-vp8:0.10, or use dconf-editor to change"
      ewarn "org.cinnamon.recorder/pipeline to what you want to use."
   fi

   if ! has_version ">=x11-base/xorg-server-1.11"; then
      ewarn "If you use multiple screens, it is highly recommended that you"
      ewarn "upgrade to >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.11 to be able to make use of"
      ewarn "pointer barriers which will make it easier to use hot corners."
   fi

   if has_version "<x11-drivers/ati-drivers-12"; then
      ewarn "Cinnamon has been reported to show graphical corruption under"
      ewarn "x11-drivers/ati-drivers-11.*; you may want to use GNOME in"
      ewarn "fallback mode, or switch to open-source drivers."
   fi

   if has_version "media-libs/mesa[video_cards_radeon]"; then
      elog "Cinnamon is unstable under classic-mode r300/r600 mesa drivers."
      elog "Make sure that gallium architecture for r300 and r600 drivers is"
      elog "selected using 'eselect mesa'."
      if ! has_version "media-libs/mesa[gallium]"; then
         ewarn "You will need to emerge media-libs/mesa with USE=gallium."
      fi
   fi

   if has_version "media-libs/mesa[video_cards_intel]"; then
      elog "Cinnamon is unstable under gallium-mode i915/i965 mesa drivers."
      elog "Make sure that classic architecture for i915 and i965 drivers is"
      elog "selected using 'eselect mesa'."
      if ! has_version "media-libs/mesa[classic]"; then
         ewarn "You will need to emerge media-libs/mesa with USE=classic."
      fi
   fi
}
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope nemo 1.8.1 is in portage soon

there's been some changes & improvements since 1.1.2:

https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/commits/master?page=7
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. I have some working (for me at least) ebuilds for cinnamon, muffin and nemo. I put them in my local overlay in /usr/local/portage.


nemo-1.8.1.ebuild http://pastebin.com/jGWNNUL7

muffin-1.8.1.ebuild http://pastebin.com/X5xCsdyP

cinnamon-1.8.2.ebuild http://pastebin.com/Bfv0qSxb

The cinnamon ebuild uses the patches from the official portage so you'll have to copy those from there to your local overlay.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

binbash wrote:
Ok. I have some working (for me at least) ebuilds for cinnamon, muffin and nemo. I put them in my local overlay in /usr/local/portage.


nemo-1.8.1.ebuild http://pastebin.com/jGWNNUL7

muffin-1.8.1.ebuild http://pastebin.com/X5xCsdyP

cinnamon-1.8.2.ebuild http://pastebin.com/Bfv0qSxb

The cinnamon ebuild uses the patches from the official portage so you'll have to copy those from there to your local overlay.


that worked for me - thanks !

I had to rename the downloaded archive to nemo-1.8.1.tar.gz though (leaving the internal structure/name was ok)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470248

These ebuilds are better. it also have the new cinnamon controlcentre and ss. Been using these ebuilds for a couple of weeks now. works really well
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