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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 8:53 am    Post subject: My First Rifle Reply with quote

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fiveyearold-boy-shoots-dead-sister-2-with-my-first-rifle-he-was-given-as-a-gift-8599709.html

Yep. Just another normal day.

What could be wrong with 5-year-old kids owning guns?
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shoots dead sister. No biggie.

I'd care If he'd shot a live sister, dead.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shoots dead sister. No biggie.

I'd care If he'd shot a live sister, dead.

No, you wouldn't.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kentucky Fried Children are the best.
LOL USA
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shoots dead sister. No biggie.

I'd care If he'd shot a live sister, dead.

No, you wouldn't.
You're right.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid parenting.

I got my first BB rifle at age 6, and was taught gun safety. Shot a real rifle and shotgun for the first time when I was 8.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, how many siblings do you have?
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I owned a Savage 223 when I was about 12 years old. Difference?

1) I had no live-in siblings to shoot
2) My dad put it in a safe when we weren't at the range

I find the title of the article most disturbing:

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Five-year-old Kentucky boy shoots dead sister, 2, with 'my first rifle' he was given as a gift
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because everyone knows, you cremate or bury dead sisters.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, how many siblings do you have?

None



Any longer.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, figured.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, figured.

Wow, are you sure that's harsh enough?
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not buy a gun for my children but if did I would certainly not leave it loaded where they could pick it up.
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sikpuppy wrote:
notageek wrote:
Yeah, figured.

Wow, are you sure that's harsh enough?

Nah, he didn't mean it in a harsh way. notageek loves me. :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just one of those things that just happens.

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"...a quick thing that happens when you turn your back,” said Kentucky State Police Public Affairs officer Billy Gregory.


Shit happens. No cause and effect, just stuff that is.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cause:

1. Utter lack of safety protocol (round left in chamber).
2. Weapon left unsecured when not in use.
3. Stupid parenting (lack of safety training for the children).

Effect:

1. Dead toddler.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stupid parenting.

I got my first BB rifle at age 6, and was taught gun safety. Shot a real rifle and shotgun for the first time when I was 8.

Same here. I resented having to wait until I was eight to shoot the .22, but I couldn't even hold it pointed at the target until then. By the end of that Summer I had my NRA Sharpshooter (Smallbore) badge, which mainly means I had learned firearm safety and could consistently hit a one-inch circle at 25 yards.

Firearms are not toys, and parent should never leave one where a child can get at it. Firearms should always be cleared and then cleared again by somebody else, after use. For those who don't know, that means making damned sure they are not loaded. In any household with children in it, firearms should be locked, or rendered inoperable (e.g. bolt removed and locked up).

Now, having said all that, this is just Darwin at work again, inhibiting these bad parents from propagating their genetics. No difference between this and backing over your kid in the driveway or leaving them locked in the car on a 95 degree day, except it's over quicker.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School wrote:
sikpuppy wrote:
notageek wrote:
Yeah, figured.

Wow, are you sure that's harsh enough?

Nah, he didn't mean it in a harsh way. notageek loves me. :wink:
Yeah, just joking. Didn't mean that in a harsh way. Apologies for any misunderstanding.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
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sikpuppy wrote:
notageek wrote:
Yeah, figured.

Wow, are you sure that's harsh enough?

Nah, he didn't mean it in a harsh way. notageek loves me. :wink:
Yeah, just joking. Didn't mean that in a harsh way. Apologies for any misunderstanding.

I knew where you were coming from. 8)
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say notageek owes Old School a hand-job at least.
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
Cause:

0. Retarded gun laws.
1. Utter lack of safety protocol (round left in chamber).
2. Weapon left unsecured when not in use.
3. Stupid parenting (lack of safety training for the children).


Effect:

1. Dead toddler.

FTFY
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fran wrote:
FTFY

You didn't fix anything. How would different gun laws have helped?
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's right. There's no law to stop retarded people breeding in the US. There is natural selection however, so can guns facilitate this with a minimum of fuss and no blame attached to anyone.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School wrote:
Stupid parenting.

I got my first BB rifle at age 6, and was taught gun safety. Shot a real rifle and shotgun for the first time when I was 8.


++ I learned to shoot around age 7. I also learned gun safety, and my parents never gave me unsupervised access to the guns or ammo. Irresponsible, shitty parenting.
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:21 pm    Post subject: Perp shoots vic; vic should have had a gun Reply with quote

The liberal media seems to be full of cracks. No idea how this fell through. I mean, the media is after stories like this, no?

Five year old accidentally fatally shoots 2 year old sister. Clearly, the solution to this is that the sister should have had a gun.

While not insane enough, it was actually the 5 year old's gun (not some adult's gun).

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Cumberland County Coroner Gary White told the Lexington Herald-Leader the boy received the .22-caliber rifle as a gift and is used to shooting it. He said the rifle was kept in a corner and the family didn't realize a shell was left inside it.
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