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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the one about genocide.
A rabbi, Democrat and Nazi walk into a bar?


And the democrat says:

"Whoever votes republican should buy the drinks and share their wealth.

Then the nazi says:

"Whoever votes democrat should buy the drinks because they believe in sharing.

And the rabbi says:

"You can both buy me a drink I'm dying of thirst over here!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Indian Wars weren't as one-sided as the are now portrayed in politically correct movies. The Native Americans were far from helpless. Some 30,000 Natives died in them, but they took about 20,000 white men with them, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.


Equal casualties (if that were correct) do not mean equal moral rights. Why should people have to fight for their own land?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Indian Wars weren't as one-sided as the are now portrayed in politically correct movies. The Native Americans were far from helpless. Some 30,000 Natives died in them, but they took about 20,000 white men with them, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.


Equal casualties (if that were correct) do not mean equal moral rights. Why should people have to fight for their own land?

Captain Strawman strikes again!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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++ although I think you minimize the consequences of disease brought by the early European explorers and colonists, and the number of natives who died fighting for the French or British against the other. Whole tribes throughout the Northeast that had lived in relative peace for centuries basically went into the business of being mercenaries. It would be like if the Federation landed here and the Klingons landed in China and dragged us into a war of attrition against each other.

Trivia. A community of Scottish settlers then went pretty far inland (for that day) ended up integrating into the local Creek tribe (Red-Stick), instead of the other way around. One of them, a William Weatherford a.k.a. Red Eagle became one of Andrew Jackson's most noted foes and fought against him at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend (the largest mass-killing of Natives in all of the U.S. battles with Natives, with nearly 600 killed).

With you referring to Jackson as a back-stabber, I take it your ancestors were either Cherokee or White-Stick Creek, who fought with Jackson and were, it is said, promised the right to stay on their land if they did so.

The Red Sticks were essentially fighting for the Spanish, who still held "Florida Plus" at this point, and they were also being egged on and given support by the British (this was happening right in the middle of the War of 1812). Your grandfather's Conquistador helmet could conceivably have come from the Southeast.

So you and mcgruff are natural enemies. Those "Scotch/Irish" who settled in that general region were also the people who later became the Hillbillies and three-toothed rednecks, and that's why our folk music has a Celtic twang to it.

My Great-great-great grandfather was a Shoshone Bannock whose daughter married the white side of the family. All Indians hate Jackson.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know one guy who says his father refused to ever handle a $20 bill.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Captain Strawman strikes again!


Really? What did you mean then?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Really? What did you mean then?

You say "did you mean". How do you feel about that?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know one guy who says his father refused to ever handle a $20 bill.

Yep.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
Bot_1 wrote:
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Really? What did you mean then?

You say "did you mean". How do you feel about that?


Typical BK. Violently expel a vigorous shower of bullshit then run away when challenged.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Challenged? :lol:
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
I know one guy who says his father refused to ever handle a $20 bill.
lol, dumbass
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