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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:51 pm    Post subject: Windows 8 Reply with quote

I've just installed Windows 8 on my work PC yesterday. And I can't form an opinion on it. The GUI is butt ugly, but I guess because they've trimmed it back. It's very weird honestly.

Anyone else try it yet?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, and not going to. I didn't even want to "upgrade" from XP to 7, but I needed a 64-bit OS to use all the RAM in my system and get better gaming performance.

There was one ad for Windows 8 that made me do a facepalm. Someone in the ad said "It's Windows, so there's nothing to learn".

When did it become a selling point to insult one's own product? 8O
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may come as a shock to you that many people are afraid to upgrade because of the complexity of learning the new system.

I'm trying to find a "new to Windows 8" video that really helped me.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried it, barfed. You have to install $10 worth of 3rd party software made by stardock to make it behave as a Windows operating system, then it's tolerable, a bit ugly still, but more usable.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You either have to have a touch interface, or you need to use hotkeys.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
You either have to have a touch interface, or you need to use hotkeys.


It is extremely hotkey heavy.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigun wrote:
wswartzendruber wrote:
You either have to have a touch interface, or you need to use hotkeys.


It is extremely hotkey heavy.

Oh god, that is horrible.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr.Willy wrote:
Bigun wrote:
wswartzendruber wrote:
You either have to have a touch interface, or you need to use hotkeys.


It is extremely hotkey heavy.

Oh god, that is horrible.


That's the thing, I kinda like it, for a Windows OS... it isn't that bad. A lot of the overhead of the GUI has been stripped out, the menus respond much, much better, the only think I don't like is that God-awful start menu. Otherwise, I'm slowly warming up to it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Widows 8 came on my laptop when I bought it. It is an awful POS!!! It has to be the worse Windows that I have used. It lasted two days here and I blew it away and installed Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

warrens wrote:
Widows 8 came on my laptop when I bought it. It is an awful POS!!! It has to be the worse Windows that I have used. It lasted two days here and I blew it away and installed Gentoo.


I had exactly the same story.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you guys use hotkeys for whatever window manager you use now? I just print the full list and pin it next to whatever computer I am using. Not rocket science, but doesn't account for a fear of change (which I think is the root of most grumbling regarding Windows 8.)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have it on one machine. Installing ClassicShell made it far more bearable: http://www.classicshell.net/
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have it on one machine. Installing ClassicShell made it far more bearable: http://www.classicshell.net/

Yep. Free and opensores for the win.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sikpuppy wrote:
Don't you guys use hotkeys for whatever window manager you use now? I just print the full list and pin it next to whatever computer I am using. Not rocket science, but doesn't account for a fear of change (which I think is the root of most grumbling regarding Windows 8.)
Change is not bad, but bad, suck ass, change is very very bad. It is plain stupid to force touchscreen api onto computers that do not have touchscreens. As for hot keys, why would I use them when it is easier to just point and click? I haven't used hot keys since dos.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

warrens wrote:
sikpuppy wrote:
Don't you guys use hotkeys for whatever window manager you use now? I just print the full list and pin it next to whatever computer I am using. Not rocket science, but doesn't account for a fear of change (which I think is the root of most grumbling regarding Windows 8.)
Change is not bad, but bad, suck ass, change is very very bad. It is plain stupid to force touchscreen api onto computers that do not have touchscreens. As for hot keys, why would I use them when it is easier to just point and click? I haven't used hot keys since dos.

If you spend your life in front of a computer point and click is bad, hotkeys are good. Unless you enjoy carpel tunnel syndrome that is.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sikpuppy wrote:
warrens wrote:
sikpuppy wrote:
Don't you guys use hotkeys for whatever window manager you use now? I just print the full list and pin it next to whatever computer I am using. Not rocket science, but doesn't account for a fear of change (which I think is the root of most grumbling regarding Windows 8.)
Change is not bad, but bad, suck ass, change is very very bad. It is plain stupid to force touchscreen api onto computers that do not have touchscreens. As for hot keys, why would I use them when it is easier to just point and click? I haven't used hot keys since dos.

If you spend your life in front of a computer point and click is bad, hotkeys are good. Unless you enjoy carpel tunnel syndrome that is.
Typing on the keyboard bad for your wrist not using a mouse. To quote WebMD
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When using a keyboard, keep your forearms parallel to the floor or slightly lowered and keep your fingers lower than your wrists. Allow your arms and hands to move freely. Take frequent breaks to stretch your fingers, hands, wrist, shoulders, and neck. If you use a wrist pad during breaks from typing, it's best to rest your palm or the heel of your hand on the support, rather than your wrist.

No where on the their site anything about changing how you use your mouse mentioned for prevention of carpel tunnel syndrome.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

warrens wrote:
No where on the their site anything about changing how you use your mouse mentioned for prevention of carpel tunnel syndrome.

Ok then. Point and click unfairly stigmatised by me. I still think mouse use is bad on the whole, but you are correct in your googled assertion that incorrect use of a keyboard, and bad posture is also not good.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to use it for a short while on my father's new laptop.
It's not as bad as I feared, but still worse than 7 or XP, imo. It takes a lot of getting used to. Didn't know about the hotkeys, though. They migh make it a better experience. And is there really no programme menu of a sort? My father told me I had to use "Search", type in the programme's name and then use one of the results. I couldn't believe that was the only way, but since I knew I'd only have to suffer this for a few hours I didn't bother searching for any other method.

Also, the cloud application is quite horrible. My father was all over the moon as if it were something new or innovative you couldn't've done before. I thought that if there is a standalone application for it, it would offer some functionality like sharing stuff etc., but for that you have to use the browser; and for putting anything into/ onto the cloud you can right-click and choose from a menu.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IE launched from the start screen looks positively horrid, looks worse than what CGA used to. Windows 8 looks more like 10 steps backwards instead of a step forward advancing tech.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clad in Sky wrote:
I had to use it for a short while on my father's new laptop.
It's not as bad as I feared, but still worse than 7 or XP, imo. It takes a lot of getting used to. Didn't know about the hotkeys, though. They migh make it a better experience. And is there really no programme menu of a sort? My father told me I had to use "Search", type in the programme's name and then use one of the results. I couldn't believe that was the only way, but since I knew I'd only have to suffer this for a few hours I didn't bother searching for any other method.

Also, the cloud application is quite horrible. My father was all over the moon as if it were something new or innovative you couldn't've done before. I thought that if there is a standalone application for it, it would offer some functionality like sharing stuff etc., but for that you have to use the browser; and for putting anything into/ onto the cloud you can right-click and choose from a menu.


Windows Key + X

Life.... saver...

Brings up something very similar to the old run window.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a hard time giving a fuck. I really tried, I just can't do it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a hard time giving a fuck. I really tried, I just can't do it.


Your lack of a fuck has been noted, and your prize is in the mail.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a hard time giving a fuck. I really tried, I just can't do it.

Perhaps you haven't found the right man yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigun wrote:
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I have a hard time giving a fuck. I really tried, I just can't do it.


Your lack of a fuck has been noted, and your prize is in the mail.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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