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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the old corrupt dictator is dead.

New corrupt dictator in 3.. 2.. 1...

@lotek: for fuck's sake dude. Use proper punctuation and capitalization. Your spewel is impossible to read. I don't give a shit if your grammar or spelling is a little off, but please at least pretend to make an effort at putting down readable, coherent thoughts.
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well, stuff I don't need?? what do you mean?? you mean I don't need to buy an open hardware laptop?? sure I don't need gentoo too, we all need just apple!? sorry if I don't understand you, but what do you mean?? what is the stuff I'm entitled to???
You posted that the government expected you to pay (back) for your studying, but you don't want to (entitled). But you're OK with paying for something you want but don't need (laptop). It's one of the main problems we're currently experiencing throughout the US.

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seriously I don't understand why you use gentoo!! why?? you can't make money with it and you can't pollute the environment with it (haha, ok that was provocative) so why use it?? why do you not work for apple or microsoft?? you can make way more money than beeing an administrator of the gentoo forums!! I really don't get it!!!
Theoretically I would assume Gentoo could run on devices perpetuating the consumption of fossil fuels, though I'd imagine it would require a real-time kernel. I think I've heard or read that it is running on devices requiring an RTOS, but I may be mistaken.

Gentoo can certainly be used to make money. I don't know why you said it can't. I primarily use it as a learning tool. It's pretty flexible, which is handy.

I don't work for Apple or Microsoft for several reasons. Primarily because I don't know anyone working there, but also because (so far as I know), I don't live anywhere near their facilities. I'm not sure I'd care to work for Apple, though Jobs is gone, so it might be better (I doubt it). I've heard less than favorable descriptions of being employed by MS, though it has been many years since, so they may have changed (doubt it, still a large enterprise). Of my work experience so far, I much prefer smaller organizations.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So the old corrupt dictator is dead.

New corrupt dictator in 3.. 2.. 1...
The Dictator is dead. Long live the Dictator!

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LOL! I'll have to remember that one.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a sad, sad day for democracy. Once again America has killed one of its opponents by poisoning him with their cancer poison.

It is also funny to see some of our "free thinkers" of this forum toeing the Ministry of Truth line when it comes Hugo.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@pigeon768, I will try to follow the inexact english syntax tomorrow!!

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You posted that the government expected you to pay (back) for your studying, but you don't want to (entitled). But you're OK with paying for something you want but don't need (laptop). It's one of the main problems we're currently experiencing throughout the US.

Yeah, I guess you are one of those rich harvard kids!? you know there are many, many, many people that are way more intelligent than faggy, spoiled harvard kids but the problem is that they don't have corrupt parents that fuck children. I often hear the sentence "who's gonna pay for it", I know who: those who get money from their bank account because they already have 10000000$ . the problem in your country and in mine is that their are way to many spoiled people!! your problem is not that there are students that get money from the government!! and by the way what does "money from the government" even mean? I guess spoiled IT-interfaces for stupid, spoiled people and trains that are way overheaten!!! lol, lately I sweat in the bus, because it was so hot and it's fucking winter!!! I know many people that don't need money from the government because their parents are corrupt bankers, so thats alright? it's funny that many people shout at the nazis that they didn't fight against the nazi-government, but sadly they don't see that "their government" is way more bad than the nazis. at least the nazis had good engineers!!

you know, my lemote laptop is way more efficient than those faggy apple laptops from the other students. But I guess you will not fight against me in a philosophic battle that tries to figure out whats necesarry!!!
I will reply tomorrow when I'm not in a super-angry status anymore :lol:

and sorry for my poor english!! but honestly I don't give a fuck about it, because human languages are nothing but inexact, "I want bitches" - "senseless-beeing" languages and it's a shame that I will be dead before the human race will become intelligent or will be wiped out...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, I guess you are one of those rich harvard kids!? you know there are many, many, many people that are way more intelligent than faggy, spoiled harvard kids but the problem is that they don't have corrupt parents that fuck children. I often hear the sentence "who's gonna pay for it", I know who: those who get money from their bank account because they already have 10000000$ . the problem in your country and in mine is that their are way to many spoiled people!! your problem is not that there are students that get money from the government!!


Wow, you just took a left on Envy street and drove straight onto Lunatic Avenue, 'eh?


Firstly, your dear little socialist scumbag corpse known as "Ex-Chavez" had stolen TWO BILLION dollars from his victims (citizens of Venezuela)

Secondly, you just need to take your hatred and envy down about 40 trillion notches.
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Wow, you just took a left on Envy street and drove straight onto Lunatic Avenue, 'eh?

I don't know your streets! at least try to think that there is more than your wallstreet and other corrupt faggot streets!

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Firstly, your dear little socialist scumbag corpse known as "Ex-Chavez" had stolen TWO BILLION dollars from his victims (citizens of Venezuela)

yeah if you don't recognize it I will clarify: I don't give a shit about chavez, obama, romney, hitler and whatever their names are.... I care about the poor humanity and the lost way of the poor victims that just think about the next day and think it's easy to shout at obama. I bet in some regions in the world people shout at the opposite and they think they've found the truth too. But seriously you either must be very rich and stupid or you don't see that some people can sit around and get money from the bank because they already have money! and many other people work hard and get nothing! this isn't about some stupid, primitive "me me socialism vs capitalism" but about whats right and whats wrong and our "money-finance-system" is clearly wrong!! I mean I guess every rich "shouting at obama, shouting at communism, etc" would be very silent if he had to work hard from square one!

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Secondly, you just need to take your hatred and envy down about 40 trillion notches.

thanks, indeed I have to calm down but only for my own healthy!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the problem in your country and in mine is that their are way to many spoiled people!!
Agreed. People who expect things for nothing are the definition of spoiled. I did not go to Harvard (or equivalent), couldn't afford to, and probably wouldn't even if I could afford it. You really should seek help for your envy of pedophiles. The hate within you seems poisonous.
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Wow, you just took a left on Envy street and drove straight onto Lunatic Avenue, 'eh?

I don't know your streets! at least try to think that there is more than your wallstreet and other corrupt faggot streets![/url]


"Corrupt faggot streets"? Really?

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Firstly, your dear little socialist scumbag corpse known as "Ex-Chavez" had stolen TWO BILLION dollars from his victims (citizens of Venezuela)

yeah if you don't recognize it I will clarify: I don't give a shit about chavez, obama, romney, hitler and whatever their names are.... I care about the poor humanity and the lost way of the poor victims that just think about the next day and think it's easy to shout at obama.


Really? May I quote you from this very thread?

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was a good man, anti capitalist like stallman


So you obviously did care about him enough to refer to him as "good". You also think anti-capitalism is good while you leech off of the system for your education and then buy your laptop from the "evil" capitalist companies that produce the goods you so obviously want (you spent money for them). Your ideology is a muddled mixture of delusional envy and confusion.


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I bet in some regions in the world people shout at the opposite and they think they've found the truth too. But seriously you either must be very rich and stupid or you don't see that some people can sit around and get money from the bank because they already have money! and many other people work hard and get nothing! this isn't about some stupid, primitive "me me socialism vs capitalism" but about whats right and whats wrong and our "money-finance-system" is clearly wrong!! I mean I guess every rich "shouting at obama, shouting at communism, etc" would be very silent if he had to work hard from square one!


Why do you despise smart people? I understand that your parents weren't "rich faggots", but why is it anyone else's fault that they managed their own finances poorly? You are also suffering from the delusion that successful people came from rich parents. Sorry to break this to you, but most "self made" millionaires don't come from money, they earned it via innovation and hard work.

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Secondly, you just need to take your hatred and envy down about 40 trillion notches.

thanks, indeed I have to calm down but only for my own healthy!


Well, while it would be a lot healthier for you to join the rest of us in this thing called reality, I mostly ask because you seem to be basing your life in celebration of a couple of the "7 deadly sins" and reading your vitriol is difficult. I think that if you weren't so hateful of people who try hard, you might actually have a chance in life.

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common Muso, I know (or better I think) we don't have much in common when it comes to politics, ethics, etc,


You are so right. While I would never condone theft or envy, you do.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does this mean I think that some Don Juan is impressive? No! Does this mean I feel that my natural drive to act like Don Juan is bad? Absolutely not.

why??? :?: you believe/think etc that don juan isn't impressive, good, etc, but you don't despise that you want to be like him (sort of like him, I think you know what I mean :) )


I think your hitch here is in the difference between a natural impulse, and a drive to emulate someone for social reasons.

I accept the first, and reject the second.

[Edit: Fixed a quote fail.]
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all the villains keep dying! where will the US government point the guns when there are no villains left?
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Just like most good shooter games, more villains spawn of course.
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Agreed. People who expect things for nothing are the definition of spoiled. I did not go to Harvard (or equivalent), couldn't afford to, and probably wouldn't even if I could afford it.

But you know that many of the students of such universities don't earn money and their rich parents pay their bills? so when somebody receives money from his parents it isn't spoiled/wrong but when somebody receives money from the government it's suddenly leftish/communistic?

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You really should seek help for your envy of pedophiles. The hate within you seems poisonous.
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The hate thing is true, but from your anti-obama-threads I think you must have some hate in you too :P


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"Corrupt faggot streets"? Really?

corrupt yes! I think everyone knows that the finance system is corrupt.

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So you obviously did care about him enough to refer to him as "good".

That was a joke and a provocation. Actually I don't know much about chavez, but I really think stallman is good.

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You also think anti-capitalism is good while you leech off of the system for your education and then buy your laptop from the "evil" capitalist companies that produce the goods you so obviously want (you spent money for them). Your ideology is a muddled mixture of delusional envy and confusion.


One of the good things in the sovjet system was that if you were good in a scientific / ingeneering - discipline you could study it. I live in a capitalistic world and if I not shoot myself then I'll have to make compromises, I have to buy food in a capitalistic store too. Moreover not every company is corrupt and "money-only" driven.

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Why do you despise smart people?

I don't quite see what you mean with "smart people". So obama is smart because he was elected to be president of the U.S, why do you despise him?

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I understand that your parents weren't "rich faggots", but why is it anyone else's fault that they managed their own finances poorly? You are also suffering from the delusion that successful people came from rich parents. Sorry to break this to you, but most "self made" millionaires don't come from money, they earned it via innovation and hard work.

I didn't say it's everyone else's fault, but I think it's way more complex than "they managed their own finances poorly". I know that not all millionaires have rich parents, but there are way more people that work hard and are not millionaires. Moreover the "innovation" is often a stolen idea. (apple -> BSD and xerox etc)

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Well, while it would be a lot healthier for you to join the rest of us in this thing called reality, I mostly ask because you seem to be basing your life in celebration of a couple of the "7 deadly sins" and reading your vitriol is difficult. I think that if you weren't so hateful of people who try hard, you might actually have a chance in life.

This thing called reality is actually not clear defined, everyone thinks a bit different and nobody knows what reality actually is! Well yesterday I was part of the "7 deadly sins world" and I have to apologize for my vitriols and attacks, but nevertheless many things I've said are true. :)

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While I would never condone theft or envy, you do.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LoTeK wrote:
was a good man, anti capitalist [...]

the fucking state payed me money for studying because my parents aren't rich faggs and now they want it back

, out of nowwhere!! I used it to pay my bills and I'm working 10-12 hours aday and I see other people that receive money and just drunk a lot of alcohol [...]

I'm receiving my new lemote 8089_D this week!!
So you can afford to pay for stuff you don't need, but not stuff you're entitled to. Awesome.


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long live chavez!!! I bet he would have buyed such an anti-capitalistic computer!!!
Capitalism is bad except when it comes to purchasing stuff you want. lol

BTW, you can also say: china and communists are bad except when it comes to produce your hardware. :P
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@ LoTeK:

First of all, I think you and many others are mixing things up along the [socialism]--------------------[capitalism] line with Obama, hence all the anti-Obama threads. Obama is not on that scale, even tho the propaganda goes along the line that he is. He is just as much as peon for banksters and military-industrial complex as Bush was, if not more. Weather he was a fake messiah from the beginning, or he fell from the grace AFTER he got into Washington and money-interests teared him a new one, we will probably find out about the same time we find out who killed JFK.

But that he is crooked, is beyond any reasonable doubt. Just look at what is actually going on in US, with bailouts, even more war, drones, NDAA etc etc.

Secondly, even if Muso, BK, etc may (I actually have no clue) originally come from that old white upper middle class republican background that you are so against (more on that later on), I think that even that crowd is waking up and realizing that the old D vs R is not the name of the game anymore, it's just a spectacle. Perhaps it always was, but it wasnt as illuminated as now that we have interwebz with serious people (like younger generations of idealists running for congress) tweeting, blogging and posting videos and podcasts on youtube. I guess it comes down to the faith, do you believe official "old media" channels to be true, or are you sceptical to everything and you are trying to puzzle together somewhat coherent picture from various sources, all from FOX News to Alex Jones Channel & Whatshisname that talkes about alien lizzard people running the world/Illuminati.
Thats basically the information spectrum nowadays, truth is fuzzy, quantum and somewhere in the middle, and your brain decides what is the truth depending on who you are and where do you come from.

As for ideologies, since the recorded history, life and politics has never been fair. So your hate is misplaced, really.
It's just the way world is, the mankind. That idyllic state of peace, love and understanding was a song, never a reality.
Even if you think that peace and fairness exists within, say, closest family, you can surely think of situations where it wasn't always fair, or even if it was, that it was dissatisfying to your ego.

So if you hate rich kids for being rich and having those faggoty apple laptops and whatnot, thinking that you are so different, streetwise and ghetto in comparison, I know people living in places where you would come off as a spoiled brat just because you have a PC, internet, hot shower, 3g/4g coverage, etc etc.

In other words, don't judge people.


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Agreed. People who expect things for nothing are the definition of spoiled. I did not go to Harvard (or equivalent), couldn't afford to, and probably wouldn't even if I could afford it.

But you know that many of the students of such universities don't earn money and their rich parents pay their bills? so when somebody receives money from his parents it isn't spoiled/wrong but when somebody receives money from the government it's suddenly leftish/communistic?


If my parents want to give me something, they would do so willingly and without the threat of violence. If your spoiled, entitled, leech is getting stuff from the government, that money was taken with the threat of force from the person that was actually working for a paycheck, giving them less money to take care of their own family.

You really need to think this stuff through before posting. :wink:
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First of all, I think you and many others are mixing things up along the [socialism]--------------------[capitalism] line with Obama, hence all the anti-Obama threads. Obama is not on that scale, even tho the propaganda goes along the line that he is. He is just as much as peon for banksters and military-industrial complex as Bush was, if not more. Weather he was a fake messiah from the beginning, or he fell from the grace AFTER he got into Washington and money-interests teared him a new one, we will probably find out about the same time we find out who killed JFK.

Secondly, even if Muso, BK, etc may (I actually have no clue) originally come from that old white upper middle class republican background that you are so against (more on that later on), I think that even that crowd is waking up and realizing that the old D vs R is not the name of the game anymore, it's just a spectacle. Perhaps it always was, but it wasnt as illuminated as now that we have interwebz with serious people (like younger generations of idealists running for congress) tweeting, blogging and posting videos and podcasts on youtube. I guess it comes down to the faith, do you believe official "old media" channels to be true, or are you sceptical to everything and you are trying to puzzle together somewhat coherent picture from various sources, all from FOX News to Alex Jones Channel & Whatshisname that talkes about alien lizzard people running the world/Illuminati.

probably! Moreover the topic is way to complex that you are able to claim something without making mistakes or without simplify the topic.

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Thats basically the information spectrum nowadays, truth is fuzzy, quantum and somewhere in the middle, and your brain decides what is the truth depending on who you are and where do you come from.

Yes but since you know this you can try to be as objective as possible! and I think even people who know this don't even try to decide/judge without taking their background too serious.

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As for ideologies, since the recorded history, life and politics has never been fair. So your hate is misplaced, really.
It's just the way world is, the mankind. That idyllic state of peace, love and understanding was a song, never a reality.
Even if you think that peace and fairness exists within, say, closest family, you can surely think of situations where it wasn't always fair, or even if it was, that it was dissatisfying to your ego.

Agreed, but exactly because of this my hate is not misplaced. Maybe if you are a balanced buddhist that don't judge anybody then I can accept this "don't hate, don't judge, etc" attitude, but although I like buddhistic thoughts I don't want to be passive or without emotions. There are things going on in the world that have to be despised. I know that sometimes you judge something and then you recognize that it wasn't as you thought, so judging can always be buggy but even so sometimes necessary.

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So if you hate rich kids for being rich and having those faggoty apple laptops and whatnot, thinking that you are so different, streetwise and ghetto in comparison, I know people living in places where you would come off as a spoiled brat just because you have a PC, internet, hot shower, 3g/4g coverage, etc etc.

I don't hate rich kids per se and I don't like poor kids per se! I just hate spoiled people that talk about how wrong it is to take money from the government etc. I wonder what those people would say when they have to feel social injustice! I also don't hate upper class people or whatever because I know that there are many good upper class people and many bad ghetto people!

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If my parents want to give me something, they would do so willingly and without the threat of violence. If your spoiled, entitled, leech is getting stuff from the government, that money was taken with the threat of force from the person that was actually working for a paycheck, giving them less money to take care of their own family.

You really need to think this stuff through before posting. :wink:

Thats what I mean, I think you should think things through before posting, because many of those parents give their children money willingly, but they have "stolen their money" too. When you have a "harvard-money" background and then you start working with a high payment while somebody with a "street-ghetto-background" get not even a small fraction from the money the harvard banker sees. So your simplification is not even a little justified!
I know that there are people that are lazy and live from social care but there are also people that work hard or lost their job etc.
BTW I think that these social care systems maybe exists to contain "extreme injustice" because then everyone would grep a rifle and run amok, so the rich upper class can be greatful that they are forced to give a little money to the poor. And I have to say it again:
when you have 1 billion you can go to a bank and you can let the money work for you, seriously, this is not theft?

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So if you hate rich kids for being rich and having those faggoty apple laptops and whatnot, thinking that you are so different, streetwise and ghetto in comparison, I know people living in places where you would come off as a spoiled brat just because you have a PC, internet, hot shower, 3g/4g coverage, etc etc.

True, but then you can take some other people that are still poorer and then "your poor people" are spoiled again. But I know what you mean :) Moreover I believe to be able to take a hot shower is very exclusive, but many people do not regard this anymore and this is spoiled, not to be able to take a hot shower, do you know what I mean?

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@lotek: for fuck's sake dude. Use proper punctuation and capitalization. Your spewel is impossible to read. I don't give a shit if your grammar or spelling is a little off, but please at least pretend to make an effort at putting down readable, coherent thoughts.

I just flew over my "yesterday-drunk-orgy-posts" but I don't found any extreme-hardcore-english-errors :)
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There seem to be some theories that he was shipped out to Cuba for treatment Friday last
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Wonder how you get that through customs ? Anything to declare ?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John-Boy wrote:
There seem to be some theories that he was shipped out to Cuba for treatment Friday last
and then smuggled back in.

Wonder how you get that through customs ? Anything to declare ?


According to google maps between Cuba and Venezuela there is only the water of the caribbean sea ........
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
Apparently Hugo isn't going away. He's going to be Lenin.

The Commie Left are so predictable in their missing spirituality. They must revere something, so it ends up being totalitarian douches.
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