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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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in a nasty little rabble-rousing, anti-muslim article.


anti-muslim, well it's better than racist I suppose.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which was "rabble rousing": the article or the speech it was about?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick question.


Juniper, are you an actual Brit? Or are you an immigrant (or a child of immigrants) from Africa/Asia?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quick question.


Juniper, are you an actual Brit? Or are you an immigrant (or a child of immigrants) from Africa/Asia?


Not a brit. I am canadian and was born and bread there. My parents still live there (but were themselves immigrants to Canada). So, I am an immigrant to england from canada and moved here as an adult a few years ago. I have no english heritage (so I didn't enter on that basis) and canadians have no special immigration rights in england (a canadian and american would be treated the same for immigration purposes). Post landing, however, we have special voting rights (as a legally residing commonwealth citizen, I can vote. Americans would not have this right). Why?

I actually don't understand benefits here and how so many people claim them. The terms of my visa say very excplicity that I am ineligible for welfare (fine. i work). I have access to other things like the NHS (not really a benefit), but I cannot collect welfare. Do these people have special visas that allow them to collect welfare? Chowdhury might actually be a brit.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can agree with that. I'd add that there are other ways for societies to deal with problems than making and enforcing laws. One of them the exertion of internal social pressures. The PC Brigade is the premier example of this. In this case, multi-culti fappers ought to acknowledge than there are times when they have to accept that what's good for the goose is good for the gander, and when some Jihadist asshole start flapping his lips like this, he should be prosecuted for any actual crimes of course, but there is nothing wrong with him being subjected to derision and public scorn for engaging in behavior that society generally finds unacceptable.


And? I fully agree. The guy is pretty nasty. All jihad all the time. Sharia this, sharia that. If you want to live under sharia, there are places that will oblige. This isn't one of them.

I think you are right that given the content of what he says he doesn't receive enough scorn. And the guy isn't anti war, he is only anti war when it comes to war with islamic countries. Not my kind of guy. But articles like this don't help. It just gives him a platform and exposure.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why?


You seem to have no problem with the English culture being eroded away into nothing.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why?


You seem to have no problem with the English culture being eroded away into nothing.


How so? I believe I am defending the right to free speech. I would think you would have sympathy for that. Also, in line with your beliefs on welfare, I think it should be reduced.

I quite like it here actually and honestly want life here to improve, if only because I may be here for a while. In any case, what have I said that is contrary to that?

Perhaps you say I don't value "english culture". depends on what part really, but I think that is false. It's a complex thing, but I like a lot of the good things (pubs, humour, film, literature). They have a long intellectual tradition here. Some other things I hate (tolerance for layers thick of complex bureaucracy is one of them). However, one thing I really value is the long tradition of liberalism, of which free speech and openness to newcomers is a part. This particular fellow is a nasty piece of work, but certainly I don't think we should abandon some excellent principles because of him.

By next year, however, I will be a brit. I just need to pass the english test (no, there is no exception for native english speakers) and the life in britain test.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things have changed here and we're the poorer for it, it would
cause me more consternation - but I don't think England is worth it any more.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Things have changed here and we're the poorer for it, it would
cause me more consternation - but I don't think England is worth it any more.


really? I like it here.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

juniper wrote:
John-Boy wrote:
Things have changed here and we're the poorer for it, it would
cause me more consternation - but I don't think England is worth it any more.


really? I like it here.


Indeed, I take no pleasure in it - but there you are. Where I am has become degraded -
this is reflected on a national stage, and in every general aspect.

The sad thing is, I don't really care any more.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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juniper wrote:
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Things have changed here and we're the poorer for it, it would
cause me more consternation - but I don't think England is worth it any more.


really? I like it here.


Indeed, I take no pleasure in it - but there you are. Where I am has become degraded -
this is reflected on a national stage, and in every general aspect.

The sad thing is, I don't really care any more.


now whose the patriot? :lol:
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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now whose the patriot? :lol:


Indeed, although you don't have any point of reference as to what this country used to be like.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every country I've been in is degraded to what it used to be say 20-30 years ago. Apparently. At least those I've been in. Commercial flight was a bad idea.

If people from fucked up cultures had to walk or ride a donkey to other cultures, the fuckupification rate would be lower then breakthrough rate within the fine art of neural programming, and once they figured out the ways of mass transcontinental travel, you could just zap them right at the airport, and you'd have instant brit/swedes/americans/whatever from the get go, and there would be no problems.

Unforeseen consequences, butterfly effect and all that. Maybe, if Wright brothers knew about all this, they would have stayed at pub and pick up pool instead.

EDIT: or could it be so that the countries I've been in became fucked up the moment I arrived, and returned to their unfucked up state the moment I left? Not sure. All I know, it's not me doing it in the UK. :lol:
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno. All I can say is about places I have seen for a long time, and they look different but have the same basic character.

I find it funny that people pine for the "good ole days". Back in the 70s when crime was higher and racial tension much worse. Ask a non-white person if they prefer walking down the street in the west in the 70s or now. I bet you it is day and night.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ask a non-white person if they prefer walking down the street in the west in the 70s or now.


Ask a white person in Malmö if they preferred walking down the street in the 70s or now.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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juniper wrote:
Ask a non-white person if they prefer walking down the street in the west in the 70s or now.

Ask a white person in Malmö if they preferred walking down the street in the 70s or now.


Good summary.

To be fair, Europe was not a melting pot of different cultures, except for mixing european cultures to a certain degree. Throw in non-european culture seeking dominance, and of course it feels like an invasion.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And another plot foiled.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, no; you're violating their freedom of speech.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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juniper wrote:
Ask a non-white person if they prefer walking down the street in the west in the 70s or now.


Ask a white person in Malmö if they preferred walking down the street in the 70s or now.


they don't like brown people?

i can't say much about england, but the city I grew up in is essentially the same except with less crime and less racial problems. that goes for pretty much all canadian cities. In the 70s, the english and french didn't mix in montreal.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

juniper wrote:
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juniper wrote:
Ask a non-white person if they prefer walking down the street in the west in the 70s or now.


Ask a white person in Malmö if they preferred walking down the street in the 70s or now.


they don't like brown people?


They don't like the theft, assaults, rapes and other crimes.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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juniper wrote:
Muso wrote:
juniper wrote:
Ask a non-white person if they prefer walking down the street in the west in the 70s or now.


Ask a white person in Malmö if they preferred walking down the street in the 70s or now.


they don't like brown people?


They don't like the theft, assaults, rapes and other crimes.


I don't know anything about the crime rates in sweden, but in canada, uk and US they are down since the 70s (across the board), YET the number of immigrants has gone way up.

So, unless there is something special about sweden, and there may be, I don't think there is a strong link between immigration and crime (except in some people's head).
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/145161
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According to an amazing police report released there this month, every single solved case of assault-rape in the country in 2010 was carried out by a Muslim immigrant.


http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4274
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The police in the Norwegian capital Oslo revealed that 2009 set yet another record: compared to 2008, there were twice as many cases of assault rapes. In each and every case, not only in 2008 and 2009 but also in 2007, the offender was a non-Western immigrant. At the same time, in 9 out of 10 cases, the victim was Norwegian, not just by nationality, but also by ethnicity


ok, Norway, not Sweden - but do you might see a pattern?

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A few years ago Australia had a wave of pack rapes and rape waves targetting white women, perpetrated by muslims of various stripes, even brother teams. Then to cool down the situation sheik el hilaly famously compared men and women as cats and uncovered meat. Classy man.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great post-war Pussification and Socialist indoctrination will prevent Europeans from doing anything about it, and the Muslim horde will fuck and eat Europe's corpse.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/145161
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According to an amazing police report released there this month, every single solved case of assault-rape in the country in 2010 was carried out by a Muslim immigrant.


http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4274
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The police in the Norwegian capital Oslo revealed that 2009 set yet another record: compared to 2008, there were twice as many cases of assault rapes. In each and every case, not only in 2008 and 2009 but also in 2007, the offender was a non-Western immigrant. At the same time, in 9 out of 10 cases, the victim was Norwegian, not just by nationality, but also by ethnicity


ok, Norway, not Sweden - but do you might see a pattern?

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A few years ago Australia had a wave of pack rapes and rape waves targetting white women, perpetrated by muslims of various stripes, even brother teams. Then to cool down the situation sheik el hilaly famously compared men and women as cats and uncovered meat. Classy man.


I feel rather insulted that immigrants are being compared to muslims who rape. These stats say nothing about other immigrants at all and sure enough in other places crime has dropped as immigration has sky rocketed.

by all means, however, we should help prevent these crimes.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's okay. You can go ahead and say it: he's a racist. :P
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