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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:37 am Post subject: Dorner Protestors: RIP Habeas Corpus |
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| Quote: | Dozens of protesters gathered outside the Los Angeles Police Department headquarters downtown Saturday afternoon, holding signs of support for Christopher Dorner, the fired police officer suspected of killing four people.
Those gathered said they were protesting police corruption and the way the massive manhunt for Dorner was conducted. Authorities said Dorner appears to have died from a self-inflected gunshot wound after a shootout with police in Big Bear on Tuesday, ending a deadly rampage that stretched across Southern California.
Protesters said they believed Dorner’s claims that he was unfairly fired from the department in 2009 – grievances described in a lengthy online manifesto that has been attributed to him. Dorner also claimed that he was the victim of racism.
Protesters also said they were appalled by police mistakenly shooting at passengers in two separate trucks in Torrance, wrongly believing Dorner might be in the vehicles. One woman was shot in the back and is still recovering.
The protesters emphasized that they did not condone the killings of which Dorner is accused.
Michael Nam, 30, stood at the corner of 1st and Main Streets with a sign, painted by his girlfriend, showing a tombstone and the words “RIP Habeas Corpus.” The tombstone was engulfed in flames.
Nam, of Lomita, said he was disturbed by the burning of a mountain cabin near Big Bear where Dorner barricaded himself with a high-powered sniper rifle, smoke bombs and a cache of ammo. The blaze started shortly after police fired "pyrotechnic" tear gas into the cabin; the canisters are known as "burners" because the intense heat they emit often causes a fire. |
| Quote: | “How the police handled this -– they were the judge, the jury and the executioner,” Nam said. “As an American citizen, you have the right to a trial and due process by law.”
Nam, a former Marine and a current member of the Army National Guard, said he has combat experience from deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He said he has been in situations in which a combatant has been barricaded and successfully waited until the person surrendered, eventually getting “tired and coming out on their own.”
Nam said it was “pretty obvious” police wanted Dorner dead. “What I saw was a complete disregard for the Bill of Rights,” Nam said.
San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon, during a news conference Friday, defended the tactics used by his agency in the shootout at the mountain cabin, which left one of his deputies dead and another seriously wounded.
“The bottom line is the deputy sheriffs of this department, and the law enforcement officers from the surrounding area, did an outstanding job,” he said. “They ran into the line of fire." |
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/protesters-show-support-for-christopher-dorner.html _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
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richk449 Guru


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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| The LA police really screwed up. If they had just declared Dorner a terrorist, then they could have taken out the cabin with a missile launched from a drone, and it would have been perfectly legal. |
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Muso l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 655 Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| richk449 wrote: | | The LA police always screw up. |
FTFY
| richk449 wrote: | | If they had just declared Dorner a terrorist, then they could have taken out the cabin with a missile launched from a drone, and it would have been perfectly legal. |
I'm sure it was one of the dick measuring things where they simply didn't want to get the feds involved. _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap |
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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:09 am Post subject: |
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If they'd have turned it over to the Feds, that might well have happened.
The LAPD wanted to take his ass out, though, before he went blabbing his story any louder to the press or the Feds. The LAPD just got off Fed supervision; they don't want them back. They had the local yokel cops up there all fired up, ready to string him up from the nearest tree.
The news media are still being assholes, referring to him as the perpetrator of a "state-wide rampage" or "a shooting spree that spanned X counties", making it sound like he was out there going apeshit with a gun, shooting anything that moved. He wasn't. If he had been a little more ruthless he might not have been caught. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
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Old School Apprentice


Joined: 20 Nov 2004 Posts: 231 Location: The Covered Bridge Capital of Oregon
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Ruby Ridge, Waco, Anwar al-Awlaki, Chris Dorner.
Maybe the people will begin to figure it out. _________________ I am not young enough to know everything.
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:43 am Post subject: |
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If this had happened under Bush, LA would be having another riot right now. African Americans must be kind of scratching their heads right about now, though.
Maybe Biden should make another statement about how Republicans "gonna put y'all back in chains!"  _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
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