Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Quick Search: in
Feinstein's fascist little bill
View unanswered posts
View posts from last 24 hours

Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Off the Wall
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
LoTeK
Apprentice
Apprentice


Joined: 26 Jul 2012
Posts: 270

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

definition of a contradiction:

Quote:
Shooting animals should be allowed but not shooting people.


Quote:
Violent, angry or fearful people should not set the terms of our peaceful lives.


:wink: :idea: :?:
_________________
"I want to see gamma rays! I want to hear X-rays! Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I can't even express these things properly because I have to conceptualize complex ideas in this stupid limiting spoken language!"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pjp
Administrator
Administrator


Joined: 16 Apr 2002
Posts: 16117
Location: Colorado

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

juniper wrote:
Muso wrote:
juniper wrote:
pjp wrote:
juniper wrote:
are you really comparing yourself to the president?
Are you really claiming only presidents (or politicians) can be a target?


statistically, yes.


False.


What i meant is that the president is an obvious assassination target. But, I am not against people who feel they are targets from owning a rifle (after suitable checks).
We have suitable checks. The current mania involves discussion of legislation which would have had no impact on recent shootings. That is how we can identify it as an irrational abridgement of civil liberties.

The recent law passed in NY limits magazines to 7 or fewer (I forget if it was inclusive of 7) bullets, which effectively eliminates most weapons. That number was not chosen for the law by happy accident. Knowing that this will have almost zero impact on future crimes, what then must be the goal? Abridgement of civil liberties.
_________________
lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.

In Loving Memory
1787 - 2008
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
McGruff
Tux's lil' helper
Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 28 Dec 2004
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
The current mania involves discussion of legislation which would have had no impact on recent shootings. That is how we can identify it as an irrational abridgement of civil liberties.


You don't think assault rifles are used in mass shootings...?!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tylerwylie
Guru
Guru


Joined: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 456
Location: /US/Illinois

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcgruff wrote:
pjp wrote:
The current mania involves discussion of legislation which would have had no impact on recent shootings. That is how we can identify it as an irrational abridgement of civil liberties.


You don't think assault rifles are used in mass shootings...?!
lol
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bones McCracker
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Posts: 1569
Location: U.S.A.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Callow, inappurtenant, flagrant strawman is callow, inappurtenant and flagrant. :roll:
_________________
"The accumulation of all power, legislative, executive, and judiciary in the same hands...may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
--James Madison, Federalist 46
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pjp
Administrator
Administrator


Joined: 16 Apr 2002
Posts: 16117
Location: Colorado

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcgruff wrote:
pjp wrote:
The current mania involves discussion of legislation which would have had no impact on recent shootings. That is how we can identify it as an irrational abridgement of civil liberties.


You don't think assault rifles are used in mass shootings...?!
I didn't say that. Thanks for demonstrating my point.
_________________
lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.

In Loving Memory
1787 - 2008
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bones McCracker
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Posts: 1569
Location: U.S.A.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcgruff is hereby demoted from Captain Strawman to Sergeant Strawman.
_________________
"The accumulation of all power, legislative, executive, and judiciary in the same hands...may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
--James Madison, Federalist 46
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NotQuiteSane
Guru
Guru


Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 471
Location: Klamath Falls, Jefferson, USA, North America, Midgarth

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcgruff wrote:
What is taxation? Depends where you live exactly but things like: health care, defence spending, roads, bridges, schools, the rule of law, public parks, etc etc

Who needs that shit :roll:


It's not a question of who needs it. it's a question of who should pay for it. An AnCap or a libertarian will pay for something he needs or wants, and if it happens to be used by another person, he has three options: the user voluntarily pay, the owner use tort to force payment, or the owner deciding public use does no harm.

If I put up a streetlight, does it hurt me if my neighbor benefits?

NQS
_________________
These opinions are mine, mine I say! Piss off and get your own.

As I see it -- An irregular blog, Improved with new location

To delete French language packs from system use 'sudo rm -fr /'
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NotQuiteSane
Guru
Guru


Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 471
Location: Klamath Falls, Jefferson, USA, North America, Midgarth

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcgruff wrote:
NotQuiteSane wrote:
Do you seriously believe that only firearms are capable of lethal force?


Do I have to?


you appear to.

mcgruff wrote:
People think if they have a gun they will be able to control a violent situation whereas, in fact, all they've really done is escalate whatever violent situations they will encounter to include a real possibility of lethal force.


No, most people I know who carry think that they will survive a violent encounter, but activly strive to avoid any,

mcgruff wrote:
Violent, angry or fearful people should not set the terms of our peaceful lives.


I agree. However those people continue to be elected world wide

NQS
_________________
These opinions are mine, mine I say! Piss off and get your own.

As I see it -- An irregular blog, Improved with new location

To delete French language packs from system use 'sudo rm -fr /'
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tylerwylie
Guru
Guru


Joined: 19 Sep 2004
Posts: 456
Location: /US/Illinois

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NotQuiteSane wrote:
mcgruff wrote:
NotQuiteSane wrote:
Do you seriously believe that only firearms are capable of lethal force?


Do I have to?


you appear to.

mcgruff wrote:
People think if they have a gun they will be able to control a violent situation whereas, in fact, all they've really done is escalate whatever violent situations they will encounter to include a real possibility of lethal force.


No, most people I know who carry think that they will survive a violent encounter, but activly strive to avoid any,

mcgruff wrote:
Violent, angry or fearful people should not set the terms of our peaceful lives.


I agree. However those people continue to be elected world wide

NQS
You are trying to reason with that which cannot be reasoned with. I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
McGruff
Tux's lil' helper
Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 28 Dec 2004
Posts: 147

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiny willy lol
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
wswartzendruber
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Posts: 1227
Location: Jefferson, USA

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
mcgruff is hereby demoted from Captain Strawman to Sergeant Strawman.

Whoa whoa whoa...you're going to take his commission just like that? And if you go this far, why not knock him all the way down to Specialist?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bones McCracker
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Posts: 1569
Location: U.S.A.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Private Strawman?

Cub Scout Strawman?
_________________
"The accumulation of all power, legislative, executive, and judiciary in the same hands...may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."
--James Madison, Federalist 46
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Off the Wall All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Page 5 of 5

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum