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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:30 pm    Post subject: So much for cycling as a sport. Reply with quote

Wow. Talk about being assanged.

It's called evidence. Try getting some.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What exactly are you blubbering about? (I guess some news I don't know about...)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lance Armstrong lost (all?) his titles due to doping.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, so that's how you build a legend :lol:
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lance Armstrong lost (all?) his titles due to doping.
Unproven. They already made their decision.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see, professional sport.
I thought some physician or similar came up with a reason why you shouldn't cycle to stay fit, lose some pounds etc..
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then we come to the most interesting question, of course a moral one : Who will obtain the titles he will be loosing? :twisted:
As, in each occurrence LA won, the 2nd, the 3rd and sometimes up the the 10th have since been convinced of doping...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cycling is riddled with cheats, always has been.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doping should be legalized.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cycling is riddled with cheats, always has been.
Mostly just the road kind. The fun kinds (DH, FR or some normal MTB) are cleaner ;)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nonsense.

What? Other cycling sports don't require inhuman stamina?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All sport require inhuman something and yet not all are full of dopers. There is simply isn't that much money and fame in downhill riding, so there is less assholes.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All sport require inhuman something and yet not all are full of dopers.

…because the good ones require dexterity and intelligence instead of strength and stamina.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All sport require inhuman something and yet not all are full of dopers.

…because the good ones require dexterity and intelligence instead of strength and stamina.
And there are no illegal drugs giving superb concetration etc?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

szczerb wrote:
Dr.Willy wrote:
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All sport require inhuman something and yet not all are full of dopers.

…because the good ones require dexterity and intelligence instead of strength and stamina.
And there are no illegal drugs giving superb concetration etc?

No, they're all legal. Coffee for instance. Our entire economy runs on it.
Haha, just imagine two quaterbacks accusing each other of drinking too much coffee.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr.Willy wrote:
…because the good ones require dexterity and intelligence instead of strength and stamina.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr.Willy wrote:
szczerb wrote:
All sport require inhuman something and yet not all are full of dopers.

…because the good ones require dexterity and intelligence instead of strength and stamina.

Do you mean running for Gov of Texas or POTUS ?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There surely are more potent things then coffee...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There surely are more potent things then coffee...

Then produce and sell it to everyone who's doing a white-collar job and become rich and famous.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I heard, everyone knew he was doing it for years and the USDA had huge amounts of people willing to attest that he was doping.

That meant that there was no point in him lying to say he was clean
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr.Willy wrote:
szczerb wrote:
There surely are more potent things then coffee...

Then produce and sell it to everyone who's doing a white-collar job and become rich and famous.

it's called adderall. it works. everyone (or near everyone) in the top half of my law school class was on it. a lot of kids were on it in undergrad.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol.

Is it any surprise that the guy who was consistently winning against an army of dope cheats was a cheat himself?

Justice finally served.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big dave wrote:
it's called adderall. it works. everyone (or near everyone) in the top half of my law school class was on it. a lot of kids were on it in undergrad.

Yeah, because nothing says winner more than an amphetamine junky in the throes of a psychotic break.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aCOSwt wrote:
Then we come to the most interesting question, of course a moral one : Who will obtain the titles he will be loosing? :twisted:
As, in each occurrence LA won, the 2nd, the 3rd and sometimes up the the 10th have since been convinced of doping...

I would say the fact that the whole top 10 from the Armstrong years was doping is, by itself, evidence enough that the chance are extremly slim Armstrong wasn't doped. I think most cycling fans realise that. The last few years the sports seems to be getting a bit cleaner, we can only hope that evolution continues.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also notice the timing. We already know that the EU did beat the USA at the last olympic games by 3:1 in total, and 2:1 per capita. Now, if the matter of doping-enabled superstar Armstrong would have been spread by the propaganda organs (AKA media) at the beginning of the olympic games, every single athlete from the USA would have been ridiculed.
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