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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatever.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah whatever. It's not like anybody cares about guns or anything.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah whatever. It's not like anybody cares about guns or anything.


I do care about guns, I just don't care about your spin on things. Just get through that denial phase, already.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcgruff wrote:
Who wants to bet their avatar against the proposition that the 2nd amendment was motivated by a desire to impose tyrannical rule?

That's not even stated properly. Also, stop being such a troll. You're going to get ignored.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As always, no spin and no trolling. I'm a straight up guy.

If you really think I'm wrong why don't you take the bet? You'll get to choose my avatar.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to be the one to tell you, but nobody cares what avatar you have.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. If you ever want a history lesson some other time let me know.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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OK. If you ever want a history lesson some other time let me know.


No thanks. I had marxism in high-school.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick Henry & George Mason were Marxists? I didn't know that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Patrick Henry & George Mason were Marxists? I didn't know that.


Your brain is programmed by product of modern marxist thought, and it is as unrealistic as it was back then. It is quite possible that you are not aware, in the same way fish is not aware of water. But one of it's symptoms is attempt at bending the narrative of left vs right politics so that it fits the paradigm in your head.

Since I don't share the same programming (maybe because I was exposed to it ad naseaum at young age, so my organism eventually rejected it) I can see the bend.

I recommend LSD. Come back with the report.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy crap you've got psychic powers! You know what I said before I already said it!

Oh wait a minute false alarm. I wasn't actually going to twist anything.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Holy crap you've got psychic powers!


I know!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
Muso's got a point. Obama's only significant responses to this tragedy seem to be focused on reducing access to assault rifles, and no assault rifle was even used. In other words, Democrats are just using the opportunity to pursue their existing legislative agenda, paying no attention whatsoever to the actual problem. They've barely paid lip service to the general issue of violence in culture, and have practically fenced off violence in entertainment as sacred ground (don't want to piss off Hollywood or the TV channels, who have been nicely serving as Outer Party members to the Ministry of Truth).

If the authoritarian leftists had any balls, they insist that civilians only be allowed to use bolt-action, manually-fed, single-round firearms. But they don't have any balls (the people with guns would NEVER tolerate this, even if the majority of the population supported it), therefore, this is all nothing but political theater and populist grand-standing, and it won't make any difference at all to anything. We've had these same bans before, and they didn't make any difference then either.


this isn't the only time that assault rifles weren't used to kill people.

so, let me get this straight. you are faulting him for focusing on assault rifles, even though they do kill a lot of people, and admit that hand guns will only be taken "from their cold dead hands".

weird.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

juniper wrote:
this isn't the only time that assault rifles weren't used to kill people.

so, let me get this straight. you are faulting him for focusing on assault rifles, even though they do kill a lot of people, and admit that hand guns will only be taken "from their cold dead hands".

weird.


Actually, assault rifles don't kill a lot of people except when in the hands of soldiers. But what is being advocated is that only soldiers, the ones who are the least responsible with them from a kill rate / % usership perspective, be the ones who have them... And you agree.

weird.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murders committed with rifles (single shot, bolt action, semi auto) in 2011....323
Murders committed with handguns in 2011....6,220
Murders committed with cutting instruments in 2011....1,694
Murders committed with blunt instruments in 2011....496
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here in my country we have such a rigid politics over gun ownership, it is quite difficult you find a gun with a regular citizen in Brazil. Is that a good thing? Maybe. But what really concerns me is that the outlaws do not respect too much the restrictions, the ruffians still armed to their teeth and the guys that have the control of illegal commercialization of guns get richer every single day.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like your avatar, Stinky_Foot.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School wrote:
Murders committed with rifles (single shot, bolt action, semi auto) in 2011....323
Murders committed with handguns in 2011....6,220
Murders committed with cutting instruments in 2011....1,694
Murders committed with blunt instruments in 2011....496


The only statistic that actually matters:

Fatal shootings where guns were used ..... 100%
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like your avatar, Stinky_Foot.


Thanks, BoneKracker! I like your avatar too, is Tolstoi in that picture, isn't he? :)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcgruff wrote:
Fatal shootings where guns were used ..... 100%
But that 100% is much less than the non-fatal shootings where guns were used.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcgruff wrote:

The only statistic that actually matters:

Fatal shootings where guns were used ..... 100%

Now you are just being silly. Here's some x-rays of the contents of peoples large intestines: http://www.oddee.com/item_98446.aspx
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BoneKracker wrote:
I like your avatar, Stinky_Foot.


Thanks, BoneKracker! I like your avatar too, is Tolstoi in that picture, isn't he? :)

You are thinking of the right country; it's Grigori Rasputin.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sikpuppy wrote:
mcgruff wrote:

The only statistic that actually matters:

Fatal shootings where guns were used ..... 100%

Now you are just being silly. Here's some x-rays of the contents of peoples large intestines: http://www.oddee.com/item_98446.aspx

Wow. I'd say the peanut butter jar wins the prize. What the fuck is wrong with some people? :lol:
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoneKracker wrote:
Wow. I'd say the peanut butter jar wins the prize. What the fuck is wrong with some people? :lol:
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We saved the weirdest story for last. During a kinky sex session, two homosexual men decided to try something new. One man lay down and let the other man pour liquid cement into his anus using a funnel. Yes, really.

Naturally, the cement didn't stay liquid for long, and when it hardened it became a huge mass of cement that had to be surgically removed.
Still, just because they do it doesn't mean a phobe has to try it (they're really just afraid they'll like it!).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you do this you will shit bricks.
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