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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 4:46 pm Post subject: Generation L.G.B.T.Q.Q.I.A.A. |
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L.G.B.T.Q.I.A: it's quite a mouthful, so to speak; doesn't exactly flow off the tongue.
| Quote: | Armed with the millennial generation’s defining traits — Web savvy, boundless confidence and social networks that extend online and off — Stephen and his peers are forging a political identity all their own, often at odds with mainstream gay culture.
If the gay-rights movement today seems to revolve around same-sex marriage, this generation is seeking something more radical: an upending of gender roles beyond the binary of male/female. The core question isn’t whom they love, but who they are — that is, identity as distinct from sexual orientation.
But what to call this movement? Whereas “gay and lesbian” was once used to lump together various sexual minorities — and more recently “L.G.B.T.” to include bisexual and transgender — the new vanguard wants a broader, more inclusive abbreviation. “Youth today do not define themselves on the spectrum of L.G.B.T.,” said Shane Windmeyer, a founder of Campus Pride, a national student advocacy group based in Charlotte, N.C.
Part of the solution has been to add more letters, and in recent years the post-post-post-gay-rights banner has gotten significantly longer, some might say unwieldy. The emerging rubric is “L.G.B.T.Q.I.A.,” which stands for different things, depending on whom you ask.
“Q” can mean “questioning” or “queer,” an umbrella term itself, formerly derogatory before it was appropriated by gay activists in the 1990s. “I” is for “intersex,” someone whose anatomy is not exclusively male or female. And “A” stands for “ally” (a friend of the cause) or “asexual,” characterized by the absence of sexual attraction. |
| Quote: | Even at the open mike, as students picked at potato chips and pineapple slices, the bounds of identity politics were spilling over and becoming blurry.
At one point, Santiago, a curly-haired freshman from Colombia, stood before the crowd. He and a friend had been pondering the limits of what he calls “L.G.B.T.Q. plus.”
“Why do only certain letters get to be in the full acronym?” he asked.
Then he rattled off a list of gender identities, many culled from Wikipedia. “We have our lesbians, our gays,” he said, before adding, “bisexual, transsexual, queer, homosexual, asexual.” He took a breath and continued. “Pansexual. Omnisexual. Trisexual. Agender. Bi-gender. Third gender. Transgender. Transvestite. Intersexual. Two-spirit. Hijra. Polyamorous.”
By now, the list had turned into free verse. He ended: “Undecided. Questioning. Other. Human.”
The room burst into applause. |
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/10/fashion/generation-lgbtqia.html _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
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Prenj n00b


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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| It's more in line with identifying with the soul (consciousness) instead of identifying with the form. |
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pjp Administrator


Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 16033 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:27 am Post subject: Re: Generation L.G.B.T.Q.Q.I.A.A. |
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | L.G.B.T.Q.I.A: it's quite a mouthful, so to speak; doesn't exactly flow off the tongue. | As a result, I think they should reshuffle the letters so it is pronounceable. GBLT -> Giblet. Doubly apropos since it can also refer to the various "mix" of peoples. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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Muso l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 655 Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Still waiting for individuals to realize that they are, in fact, individuals. _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap |
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sikpuppy n00b


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| Muso wrote: | | Still waiting for individuals to realize that they are, in fact, individuals. |
Yes. It's more fun to be enigmatic anyway, keeps the sheep on their toes. |
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Euthanasia and labour camps. _________________
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Libertardian denial of reality is wholly unimpressive and unconvincing, and simply serves to demonstrate what a bunch of delusional fools they all are.
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Satan's got perfectly toned abs and rocks a c-cup. |
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sikpuppy n00b


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| energyman76b wrote: | | Euthanasia and labour camps. |
Sounds like a gas. |
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| sikpuppy wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | | Euthanasia and labour camps. |
Sounds like a gas. |
bullet points _________________
| AidanJT wrote: |
Libertardian denial of reality is wholly unimpressive and unconvincing, and simply serves to demonstrate what a bunch of delusional fools they all are.
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Satan's got perfectly toned abs and rocks a c-cup. |
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juniper l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 756 Location: EU
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Muso wrote: | | Still waiting for individuals to realize that they are, in fact, individuals. |
I am not an individual
people probably would, if others treated them as such. |
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aidanjt Veteran


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Muso wrote: | | Still waiting for individuals to realize that they are, in fact, individuals. |
I keep telling stars the same thing, yet they still oddly keep insisting on grouping together in clusters and galaxies. _________________
| juniper wrote: | | you experience political reality dilation when travelling at american political speeds. it's in einstein's formulas. it's not their fault. |
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sikpuppy n00b


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| aidanjt wrote: | | Muso wrote: | | Still waiting for individuals to realize that they are, in fact, individuals. |
I keep telling stars the same thing, yet they still oddly keep insisting on grouping together in clusters and galaxies. |
Are you saying Muso is a giant ball of hot plasma? |
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aidanjt Veteran


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| sikpuppy wrote: | | Are you saying Muso is a giant ball of hot plasma? |
I was going to avoid connotations with gas... _________________
| juniper wrote: | | you experience political reality dilation when travelling at american political speeds. it's in einstein's formulas. it's not their fault. |
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BonezTheGoon Bodhisattva


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Muso wrote: | | Still waiting for individuals to realize that they are, in fact, individuals. |
[Obligatory] "You are not a unique and beautiful snowflake" [/Obligatory]
But yes, point well taken. I don't understand why people seem to scream "I want to be LABELED as different so people realize how different I am." I really don't understand when the use of LABELING became a process that people perceive as individualizing. _________________
| pjp wrote: | | The greater evil is voting for the "lesser evil." |
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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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They want their particular fetish/perversion labeled and included with the rest of the letter-herd, for protection and validation. This is what comes of indoctrinating children with the gold star and herd mentalities.
Next up, calling for "NAACPAP" (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and Pedophiles).  _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Muso wrote: | | Still waiting for individuals to realize that they are, in fact, individuals. | Liberals aren't. They might as well be named x of y.
Conservatives tend to be more self-reliant (and expect others to do the same). This also explains the inevitable and permanent defeat of conservatism in the US. Conservatives can't get their act together and wonder why they lose. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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If I were to ever come into sufficiently large amounts of cash, I think I'd establish the NAAPC. National Association for the Advancement of the Pigment Challenged. I would also use the same tag line to garner attention "Because a mind is a terrible thing to waste." _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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runningwithscissors Guru


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: Generation L.G.B.T.Q.Q.I.A.A. |
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| pjp wrote: | | BoneKracker wrote: | | L.G.B.T.Q.I.A: it's quite a mouthful, so to speak; doesn't exactly flow off the tongue. | As a result, I think they should reshuffle the letters so it is pronounceable. GBLT -> Giblet. Doubly apropos since it can also refer to the various "mix" of peoples. |
L.G.B.T.Q.I.A Q(u)ILTBAG. _________________ At some stage, the Hindus locked on to the nation destroying concepts like ahimsa (non-violence), shanti (peace), satya (truth) — the ‘ass’ syndrome. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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It does include more of the letters, but the "bag" makes it sound more like an insult (may be a cultural thing). _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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sikpuppy n00b


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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| There's a bike clan called Dykes on Bikes here (and elsewhere probably). There's a label that doesn't need explaining to anyone. |
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| sikpuppy wrote: | | There's a bike clan called Dykes on Bikes here (and elsewhere probably). There's a label that doesn't need explaining to anyone. |
so they are big and bulky and if there is a risk of flooding they throw themselves into the breaches? _________________
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Libertardian denial of reality is wholly unimpressive and unconvincing, and simply serves to demonstrate what a bunch of delusional fools they all are.
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Satan's got perfectly toned abs and rocks a c-cup. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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By flooding, are you referring to squirting? _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Generation L.G.B.T.Q.Q.I.A.A. |
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| runningwithscissors wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | BoneKracker wrote: | | L.G.B.T.Q.I.A: it's quite a mouthful, so to speak; doesn't exactly flow off the tongue. | As a result, I think they should reshuffle the letters so it is pronounceable. GBLT -> Giblet. Doubly apropos since it can also refer to the various "mix" of peoples. |
L.G.B.T.Q.I.A Q(u)ILTBAG. |
That's excellent!
U can be fore "Undecided".
We should send them an email with the solution.
Queer
Undecided
Intersex
Lesbian
Transvestite
Bisexual
Androgynous
Gay _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Q is questioning, not queer. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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big dave n00b

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:42 am Post subject: |
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new acronym for all of them... FC.
fucking confused |
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sikpuppy n00b


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