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Which chamber should I use?
.223 Remington
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.308 Winchester
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:05 am    Post subject: Savage Axis XP: .223 Remington or .308 Winchester? Reply with quote

I've decided to buy a Savage Axis XP at some point. I just can't decide if I want to go with a .223 or .308 chamber. If I go with .223, then it will be compatible with my AR-15 and I will need to buy only one type of ammunition (their .223 chamber is compatible with NATO 5.56 mm). On the other hand, the .308 round has more stopping power. I don't know if I will hunt deer with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a gas chamber?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A gas chamber is more humane than shooting. I think, maybe.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice. @OP.

Although, I hope you're aware all members of long range shooting ranges are considered as terrorists. If you really want to stay under the radar, you'll have to find a creative way to pursue your hobby.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice. @OP.

Although, I hope you're aware all members of long range shooting ranges are considered as terrorists. If you really want to stay under the radar, you'll have to find a creative way to pursue your hobby.

Like, erm, join the armed forces? Or the police?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must be new here.

But just for fun, ask him why it isn't an option for him.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
You must be new here.

But just for fun, ask him why it isn't an option for him.

I am new here, that is true. I don't know if I want to know much more than I do about anyone on here. Am I wrong to think that? It certainly suits me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too lazy to look that up, is it CRF or push feed? Also, are those your only choices? personally I'd argue for a 308, 30-06, 300 win mag, or one of their derivatives. Then learn to handload and cast and tailor your ammo to the task.

Also if you might use it to hunt deer, in many areas you must use a caliber greater than 0.23 inch. if you don't like 30's, maybe try a 6mm PPC? or a 7mm-08, both are designed with accuracy in mind.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wsw : If you selected this particular model because it's a passion, then go on following your passion and don't ask for advices. You are necessarily the only one who can be right.

If you are looking for a rationale somewhere then :

- The only advice I would give is to consider the price for the cartridges together with an estimation of the number of cartridges you are likely to shoot.
As an example, over there, the price for a .375 is between 3 and 4 times the price for a .240 and 10 boxes of 20 cost more than the rifle... so...

After, I have no experience with the calibers you mention. My only experience is with .240 .300 and .375 Mag
.240 Mag is definitely my preferred choice. As far as boars and deers are concerned (I never faced any rhino around there you know...), anything > .240 Mag is definitely overkill as it offers a couple of undesirable side effects. (Particularly if you intend to have the result for lunch...)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said .308, but what you really want is to save your pennies until you can get a better one.

Or you could get a nice AR-10 or tactical shotgun to compliment your AR-15. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Sniper_Rifles_Tanaka_Tanaka_L96_Covered_Sniper_Black_Version.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NotQuiteSane wrote:
personally I'd argue for a 308, 30-06, 300 win mag, or one of their derivatives. Then learn to handload and cast and tailor your ammo to the task.

Also if you might use it to hunt deer, in many areas you must use a caliber greater than 0.23 inch. if you don't like 30's, maybe try a 6mm PPC? or a 7mm-08, both are designed with accuracy in mind.

i agree with this... go for 308 or 30-06.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put more money and time into your own education. Move out of that violent shit place of yours as soon as you have a good job. And try to get your Iraq nightmares of all those angels fixed by a nice counselor.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I said .308, but what you really want is to save your pennies until you can get a better one.

Or you could get a nice AR-10 or tactical shotgun to compliment your AR-15. :)


I'd argue for a L1A1. but then I like "British" rifles.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My education is free and I have only one semester left.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
My education is free and I have only one semester left.


Not quite true.

You just paid using a different currency.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnVs1IL0fL8

I voted .308 since it seems like it would cover a broader set of uses...hunting, target shooting. The smaller caliber, you can't really hunt with and since the gun is pretty long, it's not a defense weapon. However, if you are sure you aren't going to hunt with it and want a long range rifle for target shooting that has less recoil, then get the weenie caliber.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NotQuiteSane wrote:
wswartzendruber wrote:
My education is free and I have only one semester left.
No. And hey, cool, but...

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Not quite true.
Indeed.

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You just paid using a different currency.
A pretty high price, if I may add.

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... since there is only half a year left, let's start a thread
Making a career choice for wswartzendruber at OTW, shall we?! What could possibly go wrong. :P
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it has to be the Axis, 308. The 308 has a much better ammo selection for a multitude of uses. The 223 is 9 twist which is OK but a 223 bolt gun is better in 8 or 7, you can shoot bullets that are happier at long ranges. There are multiple Savages that are 7 twist 223s, maybe spend a few more dollars up front.
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wildhorse wrote:
NotQuiteSane wrote:
wswartzendruber wrote:
My education is free and I have only one semester left.
No. And hey, cool, but...

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Not quite true.
Indeed.

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You just paid using a different currency.
A pretty high price, if I may add.

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... since there is only half a year left, let's start a thread
Making a career choice for wswartzendruber at OTW, shall we?! What could possibly go wrong. :P

You think he "paid a high price"? His peers who went straight to college, sponging off daddy, spent the last couple of years in mommy's basement or occu-mastur-pying in some park, who have never held any significant responsibility except maybe the drive-through at Burger King, and have no proven skills or significant experience with which to gain employment, and who now have $50,000 - $100,000 in debt -- they are ones who I'd say have paid a pretty high price (high or stupid, or both). :?
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You think he "paid a high price"? His peers who went straight to college, sponging off daddy, spent the last couple of years in mommy's basement or occu-mastur-pying in some park, who have never held any significant responsibility except maybe the drive-through at Burger King, and have no proven skills or significant experience with which to gain employment, and who now have $50,000 - $100,000 in debt -- they are ones who I'd say have paid a pretty high price (high or stupid, or both). :?
What you describe is the US American dream of an education system. It's been always just a dream, which by now turned into a nightmare. For that you need Little David with a 914 mm bullet (which never worked either).
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Savage Axis XP: .223 Remington or .308 Winchester? Reply with quote

wswartzendruber wrote:
I've decided to buy a Savage Axis XP at some point. [...] I don't know if I will hunt deer with it.
I'd say wait until you know what you are going to do with it. If you decide you want to hunt, you'd need something else (or have an excuse to get something else). Depends on how much money you want to spend and what kind of collection you want. "At some point" sounds vague enough to put it off until you decide.
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wildhorse wrote:

Making a career choice for wswartzendruber at OTW, shall we?! What could possibly go wrong. :P


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