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jsf_x35a
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I don't know if any of you remember me. I haven't been around here in years. What's changed?
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pjp
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:14 am Post subject: |
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McCain lost, followed by Romney. The Republican Establishment is circling the wagons from the TEA party invasion. Democrats continue to expand their Trinkets for Votes program. The Federal Reserve printing presses would have burned out their bearings were they not printing digital currency.
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Muso
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:02 am Post subject: |
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pjp pretty much summed it up. Oh, CERN found the Higgs boson.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:29 am Post subject: |
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To keep from writing too long of a post, I left out the prattle. But I guess one tidbit isn't too much. :D
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Clad in Sky
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:51 am Post subject: |
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And e17 got released.
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Muso
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| Clad in Sky wrote: | | And e17 got released. |
That one should have had a parade.
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Clad in Sky
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True. 
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pjp
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:18 am Post subject: |
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I installed the available e17 beta on my new build. Haven't used it much yet.
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sikpuppy
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | I installed the available e17 beta on my new build. Haven't used it much yet. |
It's up to the release version in portage now. |
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wswartzendruber
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| Per your user name, the Marine Corps and Air Force now have F-35s. |
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energyman76b
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| wswartzendruber wrote: | | Per your user name, the Marine Corps and Air Force now have F-35s. |
not... really... but shouldn't that make you sick to your stomach? so much tax payer's money wasted on these things?
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Muso
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| energyman76b wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Per your user name, the Marine Corps and Air Force now have F-35s. |
not... really... but shouldn't that make you sick to your stomach? so much tax payer's money wasted on these things? |
It's one of those rare occasions when congress actually spends money on something mandated by the actual constitution.
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energyman76b
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| Muso wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Per your user name, the Marine Corps and Air Force now have F-35s. |
not... really... but shouldn't that make you sick to your stomach? so much tax payer's money wasted on these things? |
It's one of those rare occasions when congress actually spends money on something mandated by the actual constitution. |
so the constitution mandates wasting a shitload of money on superfluos fighter airplanes?
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sikpuppy
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| energyman76b wrote: | | Muso wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Per your user name, the Marine Corps and Air Force now have F-35s. |
not... really... but shouldn't that make you sick to your stomach? so much tax payer's money wasted on these things? |
It's one of those rare occasions when congress actually spends money on something mandated by the actual constitution. |
so the constitution mandates wasting a shitload on money on superfluos fighter airplanes? |
I'm coming to the conclusion that the US constitution does everything. It won every war that the US has fought, it's brought peace to the Middle East, it's squashed the national debt, it saved the car industry, it stopped the illicit drug trade, it brought equality to black Americans. It's so great they write songs about it! I want the US constitution's babies, or to let it bone me up the arse if it's male. I especially like the fact the US constitution allows citizens FREE PEACHES! and the right to farm BEARS!!!111
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Old School
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| Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| energyman76b wrote: | | Muso wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Per your user name, the Marine Corps and Air Force now have F-35s. |
not... really... but shouldn't that make you sick to your stomach? so much tax payer's money wasted on these things? |
It's one of those rare occasions when congress actually spends money on something mandated by the actual constitution. |
so the constitution mandates wasting a shitload of money on superfluos fighter airplanes? |
While Chopinzee is correct that defense is one of the few things the Feds are mandated to do, our military spending is more in line with global hegemony than defense of North America.
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wswartzendruber
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| True, but the F-35 updates a bunch of different obsolete models with a single hardware platform. |
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energyman76b
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with the cost of one(!) plane you could repair hundreds of miles of roads, build a whole bunch of schools, repair a couple of bridges or fund a shitload of research....
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Old School
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| energyman76b wrote: | | with the cost of one(!) plane you could repair hundreds of miles of roads, build a whole bunch of schools, repair a couple of bridges or fund a shitload of research.... |
As a western European, you should keep your mouth shut, considering the US has subsidized European defense for 60 fucking years! 
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energyman76b
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| Old School wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | | with the cost of one(!) plane you could repair hundreds of miles of roads, build a whole bunch of schools, repair a couple of bridges or fund a shitload of research.... |
As a western European, you should keep your mouth shut, considering the US has subsidized European defense for 60 fucking years! |
you mean keeping the fire burning under that pot called 'arms race' that was imagnary straight from the beginning? yeah, thanks for that.. really. Thumbs up. I am sure all those people who died when their Starfighter fell from the sky are really happy about it.
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Old School
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| energyman76b wrote: | | Old School wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | | with the cost of one(!) plane you could repair hundreds of miles of roads, build a whole bunch of schools, repair a couple of bridges or fund a shitload of research.... |
As a western European, you should keep your mouth shut, considering the US has subsidized European defense for 60 fucking years! |
you mean keeping the fire burning under that pot called 'arms race' that was imagnary straight from the beginning? yeah, thanks for that.. really. Thumbs up. I am sure all those people who died when their Starfighter fell from the sky are really happy about it. |
Yeah, yeah. If it wasn't for the US VII Corp the Warsaw Pact would have rolled through the Fulda Gap and reunified Germany decades before The Wall ever came down.
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energyman76b
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no, they wouldn't. For there was nothing to gain.
Either way, Muso's distraction is just that. All those crap does not excuse wasting billions on a fighter plane that is not needed at all. Money that could be spent more usefully or even better not at all.
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wswartzendruber
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| Because the F-16 is so advanced. |
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Muso
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| energyman76b wrote: | no, they wouldn't. For there was nothing to gain.
Either way, Muso's distraction is just that. All those crap does not excuse wasting billions on a fighter plane that is not needed at all. Money that could be spent more usefully or even better not at all. |
Because you're the expert on what should be needed for the defense of the USA?
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wildhorse
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| Old School wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | | with the cost of one(!) plane you could repair hundreds of miles of roads, build a whole bunch of schools, repair a couple of bridges or fund a shitload of research.... |
As a western European, you should keep your mouth shut, considering the US has subsidized European defense for 60 fucking years! |
You know exactly shit about who pays for what. Just ask your senators and governors from your southern states why all their heroic attempts to bring your troops home fail instantly with the proposal. Thanks. Happy New Year! |
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| wildhorse wrote: | | Old School wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | | with the cost of one(!) plane you could repair hundreds of miles of roads, build a whole bunch of schools, repair a couple of bridges or fund a shitload of research.... |
As a western European, you should keep your mouth shut, considering the US has subsidized European defense for 60 fucking years! |
You know exactly shit about who pays for what. Just ask your senators and governors from your southern states why all their heroic attempts to bring your troops home fail instantly with the proposal. Thanks. Happy New Year! |
Because the local Europeans scream bloody murder when they find out how much their economy will suffer.
I've wanted to bring our troops home from Europe for decades now. You freeloading fuckers can pay for your own police state.
Well, come to think of it.... your economy is so fucked, you can't.
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