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marens Apprentice


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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Vs.? If you haven't noticed, the individuals creating petitions on that site are rather ignorant. That said, there should be a special European Equivalency Tax applied to Piers (etc.) to make them feel more at home. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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flysideways Tux's lil' helper

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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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That's kind of like "one of these things is not like the other" on Sesame Street. Apparently those decision makers have trouble with that concept. Other than being a bit overly whiny, Savage doesn't say anything over the top (I periodically hear ~20 minutes of his show a few times per month). _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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eeyrjmr n00b

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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing needs to be done
Not talking about gun control or banning guns, but something is rotten, rotten to the core _________________ -- No pixels were harmed in the making of this post -- |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| eeyrjmr wrote: | | Not talking about gun control or banning guns, but something is rotten, rotten to the core | Voters. They reelect those interested in chipping away at civil liberties. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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Muso l33t


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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: 2nd vs. 1st amendment? |
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Awesome. I personally would rather he got deported for just being a complete asshat.
People's exhibit A : Piers Morgan being a dick to Penn Jillette. _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap |
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flysideways Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| eeyrjmr wrote: | Nothing needs to be done
Not talking about gun control or banning guns, but something is rotten, rotten to the core |
That something is repeat offenders.
| BBC wrote: | | He had previously served a 17-year jail sentence after being convicted of killing his grandmother. |
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flysideways Tux's lil' helper

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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Mental issues don't have an easy fix. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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bogamol Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| eeyrjmr wrote: | Nothing needs to be done
Not talking about gun control or banning guns, but something is rotten, rotten to the core |
how did you link to an article written 18 hours after your post timestamp? |
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patrix_neo Guru

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 344 Location: Svedala
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | eeyrjmr wrote: | | Not talking about gun control or banning guns, but something is rotten, rotten to the core | Voters. They reelect those interested in chipping away at civil liberties. |
Voters, the guilty ones? I beg you to reconsider. Once in a milenium you will encounter a good politician worth voting for.
[edit] The whole gun-politics are not the core problem as I see it. It's the culture. I think it is too difficult to be of an other opinion but to tick off some lesser mentally stable student in the US. Things will happen.
[edit 2] I think I got myself explained correctly?  |
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Muso l33t


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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:51 am Post subject: |
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Piers Morgan is an ignorant fool. _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap |
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sikpuppy n00b


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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| bogamol wrote: | | eeyrjmr wrote: | Nothing needs to be done
Not talking about gun control or banning guns, but something is rotten, rotten to the core |
how did you link to an article written 18 hours after your post timestamp? |
Where I live is almost a whole day ahead of the US. So it is yesterday in the US a lot. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| patrix_neo wrote: | | Voters, the guilty ones? I beg you to reconsider. Once in a milenium you will encounter a good politician worth voting for. | IMO, congress is much like compost. So reelecting the same politicians isn't effective. | Quote: | | the process of composting simply requires making a heap of wetted organic matter (leaves, "green" food waste) and waiting for the materials to break down into humus after a period of weeks or months. Modern, methodical composting is a multi-step, closely monitored process with measured inputs of water, air and carbon- and nitrogen-rich materials. The decomposition process is aided by shredding the plant matter, adding water and ensuring proper aeration by regularly turning the mixture. Worms and fungi further break up the material. | But I agree that reelecting them is a societal problem. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:08 am Post subject: Re: 2nd vs. 1st amendment? |
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I can't watch. As soon as he started talking about "it's the job of the government" I knew I was in trouble. Then he mentioned FDR, and I had to stop. At that point, about 70 seconds, he wasn't being a dick, just an idiot. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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Muso l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 655 Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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The UK doesn't want him back!
| Quote: | UK Government: Stop Piers Morgan from being deported back to the UK from America
We got rid of him once and why should we have to suffer again. The Americans wanted him so they should put up with him. We washed our hands of him a long time ago. |
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Muso l33t


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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Over 80,000 signatures to deport him already!
30,000 is the threshold to have the Whitehouse comment on the issue  _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap |
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eeyrjmr n00b

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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I do find it quite odd how so many are willing to put the 2nd amendment (bear arms) before the 1st (free speech)
He has every right to say what he likes. If you don't like it, don't listen. Sounds like a bunch of pussy were not holding their guns when they watched or heard of this; only explaination for their disproportionate pussified reaction, since holding a gun stops you being a pussy. _________________ -- No pixels were harmed in the making of this post -- |
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Muso l33t


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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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He's not a citizen, he's a foreign agitator trying to undermine the constitution! Deport the prick now!!!
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eeyrjmr n00b

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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted in 1948, states that:
"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."
To deport him, what exact law did he break? _________________ -- No pixels were harmed in the making of this post -- |
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YawningAngel n00b

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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | Mental issues don't have an easy fix. |
You don't need to fix the people, you can't do this if you don't have access to guns. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| YawningAngel wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | Mental issues don't have an easy fix. |
You don't need to fix the people, you can't do this if you don't have access to guns. | Surely you'd get more support with a humane approach like "putting them to sleep" _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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Leyst n00b

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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | YawningAngel wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | Mental issues don't have an easy fix. |
You don't need to fix the people, you can't do this if you don't have access to guns. | Surely you'd get more support with a humane approach like "putting them to sleep" |
Typical American thinking. Calling it humane to kill other people. Great plan mate. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 2:40 am Post subject: |
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I thought YawningAngel was suggesting to shoot them, so I suggested a more humane alternative. I now see he was probably suggesting we abridge civil liberties.
So are you on the preferred non-American way of thinking that abridging civil liberties is a Great Plan? Hopefully not, 'cause that is about as far from a great plan as you can get. Nice typical knee-jerk you've got there. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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