| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
CaptainRabies n00b

Joined: 13 Sep 2012 Posts: 12
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:02 am Post subject: What's the oldest computer you've got Gentoo on? |
|
|
I've been given a computer as part of an estate liquidation. It's a Gateway with a Pentium III, 128M of ram, an ATI Rage 128 GPU, no Ethernet (phoneline only) and a whole bunch of wide ribbon connectors I've only ever heard described on wikipedia before. I think they're PATA cables, but I can't be sure. It was manufactured in '99, and I just turned it on a few minutes ago. It has Windows 98 installed currently, and I'm thinking of turning it Gentoo.
I'm confident somebody out there has installed Gentoo on an abacus, I just want to hear from you guys (mostly to talk myself into the project). So, let's hear it: What's your oldest, currently-running machine? _________________ Addendum to Murphy's Law: Everything has already gone wrong, you just don't know about it yet. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
sikpuppy n00b


Joined: 12 Jun 2012 Posts: 23 Location: Central Coast, NSW
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
I have an ASUS A1000 from about 2001, the specs are here: Specs.
It's got LXDE as the window manager and I use it when I want to sit in the garden and do stuff. The battery is dead, but I use a power point otherwise reserved for a pond pump and an old USB wi-fi adapter for ethernet which actually works.
It's probably massively out of date since I did the initial emerge about 2007, and haven't updated the thing for years. I do remember that it took the best part of a day to build since I made the mistake of emerging Firefox and various other monster timewasters.
It still boots however, and manages SD video without too much chunky action which is what I use it for mostly, to watch TV shows using headphones in the garden and having a beer. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
aidanjt Veteran


Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 1101 Location: Rep. of Ireland
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:22 am Post subject: |
|
|
I've installed Gentoo on a VIA C3 machine, which would be a fair bit slower than a PIII. It's painful, but doable. _________________
| juniper wrote: | | you experience political reality dilation when travelling at american political speeds. it's in einstein's formulas. it's not their fault. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
BoneKracker Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:55 am Post subject: Re: What's the oldest computer you've got Gentoo on? |
|
|
| CaptainRabies wrote: | I've been given a computer as part of an estate liquidation. It's a Gateway with a Pentium III, 128M of ram, an ATI Rage 128 GPU, no Ethernet (phoneline only) and a whole bunch of wide ribbon connectors I've only ever heard described on wikipedia before. I think they're PATA cables, but I can't be sure. It was manufactured in '99, and I just turned it on a few minutes ago. It has Windows 98 installed currently, and I'm thinking of turning it Gentoo.
I'm confident somebody out there has installed Gentoo on an abacus, I just want to hear from you guys (mostly to talk myself into the project). So, let's hear it: What's your oldest, currently-running machine? |
I'm running it as a firewall/router on a Pentium III and have had as little as 128 MiB in there. You'll do better with more RAM, though, and I don't think I'd try to run an X environment with that little. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
notageek Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 05 Jun 2008 Posts: 78 Location: Bangalore, India
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
I installed Gentoo, first on a three year old computer in 2008. Single core, with about 1GB RAM, AMD64 2800+ I wouldn't say I was disappointed with its speed (it was snappier to use than some of the other Linux distros I was using at the time) but I thought "if this is fast, how fast will it be on a quad core?"
So I upgraded to a quad core, 6GB RAM. Yes, it's even snappier. In-case you were wondering. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Dr.Willy Apprentice

Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 287 Location: NRW, Germany
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Not the oldest, but my AMD Geode LX (@ 500MHz) probably qualifies. It does have 1GB of ram though. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
John-Boy Guru


Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 436 Location: Desperately seeking Moksha in all the wrong places
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
AMD K6 laptop (300 MHZ). Cut my Gentoo teeth on that. _________________ When you break rules, break 'em good and hard |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Crooksey Apprentice


Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 236 Location: Vatican City
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I have an old P3 desktop with the same specs, it runs
*Gentoo
*Xorg + Fluxbox
*Wireless card through PCI
Boots in under 10seconds, also has firefox (non binary version) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
energyman76b Advocate


Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 2022 Location: Germany
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Dell Poweredge. 2x1,2Ghz Tualatin, 256 mb ECC ram. 4x15K SCSI disks. Occasionally use it as backup spooler to feed my tape lib. Extremely noisy. _________________
| AidanJT wrote: |
Libertardian denial of reality is wholly unimpressive and unconvincing, and simply serves to demonstrate what a bunch of delusional fools they all are.
|
Satan's got perfectly toned abs and rocks a c-cup. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
BoneKracker Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| energyman76b wrote: | | Dell Poweredge. 2x1,2Ghz Tualatin, 256 mb ECC ram. 4x15K SCSI disks. Occasionally use it as backup spooler to feed my tape lib. Extremely noisy. |
That's a low-voltate CPU. If you want noisy, try one with a couple of Pentium 4 CPU's in it. Hot and noisy as cats clusterfucking on a tin roof in July. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
energyman76b Advocate


Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 2022 Location: Germany
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| BoneKracker wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | | Dell Poweredge. 2x1,2Ghz Tualatin, 256 mb ECC ram. 4x15K SCSI disks. Occasionally use it as backup spooler to feed my tape lib. Extremely noisy. |
That's a low-voltate CPU. If you want noisy, try one with a couple of Pentium 4 CPU's in it. Hot and noisy as cats clusterfucking on a tin roof in July. |
well, the 30W and 17W fans cooling the CPU and SCSI disks are not the loudest part. The disks are. _________________
| AidanJT wrote: |
Libertardian denial of reality is wholly unimpressive and unconvincing, and simply serves to demonstrate what a bunch of delusional fools they all are.
|
Satan's got perfectly toned abs and rocks a c-cup. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
BoneKracker Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| energyman76b wrote: | | BoneKracker wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | | Dell Poweredge. 2x1,2Ghz Tualatin, 256 mb ECC ram. 4x15K SCSI disks. Occasionally use it as backup spooler to feed my tape lib. Extremely noisy. |
That's a low-voltate CPU. If you want noisy, try one with a couple of Pentium 4 CPU's in it. Hot and noisy as cats clusterfucking on a tin roof in July. |
well, the 30W and 17W fans cooling the CPU and SCSI disks are not the loudest part. The disks are. |
 _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
energyman76b Advocate


Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 2022 Location: Germany
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| BoneKracker wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | | BoneKracker wrote: | | energyman76b wrote: | | Dell Poweredge. 2x1,2Ghz Tualatin, 256 mb ECC ram. 4x15K SCSI disks. Occasionally use it as backup spooler to feed my tape lib. Extremely noisy. |
That's a low-voltate CPU. If you want noisy, try one with a couple of Pentium 4 CPU's in it. Hot and noisy as cats clusterfucking on a tin roof in July. |
well, the 30W and 17W fans cooling the CPU and SCSI disks are not the loudest part. The disks are. |
 |
oh, and they have to spin up in sequence - or they would blow away the psu. Fucking, fucking loud. But fucking fast too. _________________
| AidanJT wrote: |
Libertardian denial of reality is wholly unimpressive and unconvincing, and simply serves to demonstrate what a bunch of delusional fools they all are.
|
Satan's got perfectly toned abs and rocks a c-cup. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
BoneKracker Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.
|
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Spinning like an Iranian nuclear fuel enrichment plan. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
NotQuiteSane Guru


Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 470 Location: Klamath Falls, Jefferson, USA, North America, Midgarth
|
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:00 am Post subject: |
|
|
currently running? probably my ultra 10.
but when i first installed gentoo it was onto a compaq server with dual pentium pro chips and 48mb of ram. Your p3/128mb is world ahead of what i had. and that machine was retired due to SCSI cost, not performance.
at least you didn't post "I'm thinking of trying gentoo. is a core i7 fast enough?".
NQS _________________ These opinions are mine, mine I say! Piss off and get your own.
As I see it -- An irregular blog, Improved with new location
To delete French language packs from system use 'sudo rm -fr /' |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
BoneKracker Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.
|
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:31 am Post subject: |
|
|
Things change, though. It takes more power to run Linux than it did just a few years ago. If you're running it on an old uniprocessor these days it's like you're driving a two-horse wagon with one of the horses unhooked and lying in the wagon, along for the ride as dead weight, and the other one's thrown a shoe, gone blind, and has the shits. If you're running a desktop it's like that nag is not only pulling that dead weight but a dump-truck's load of garbage too.
Where's richk449 to admire my knotty, inurbane analogy. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
NotQuiteSane Guru


Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 470 Location: Klamath Falls, Jefferson, USA, North America, Midgarth
|
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
oh, I agree. it's the idea that "last years model" is too old to run gentoo that gets me.
of course much of the problem is people running kde/gnome with all the bells and whistles instead of what they actually need and use
NQS _________________ These opinions are mine, mine I say! Piss off and get your own.
As I see it -- An irregular blog, Improved with new location
To delete French language packs from system use 'sudo rm -fr /' |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
BoneKracker Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.
|
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:32 am Post subject: |
|
|
| NotQuiteSane wrote: | oh, I agree. it's the idea that "last years model" is too old to run gentoo that gets me.
of course much of the problem is people running kde/gnome with all the bells and whistles instead of what they actually need and use
NQS |
Yeah. You can generally get another 3-5 years of use out of a Windows machine that's "too slow" by putting a conservative Linux configuration on it, and maybe adding a little ram. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
eccerr0r Advocate

Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 2998 Location: USA
|
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:59 am Post subject: |
|
|
Hmm... think this is slowest so far:
Geode GX1 266MHz, 256MB RAM, 2GB HDD. Using as embedded server/IRC bot, and currently running a "full" Gentoo, as in, yes I run "emerge -u world" on it and it's heavily assisted through distcc (even my AthlonXP 2200+ is much faster than this machine, and I already think the AthlonXP needs an upgrade...).
No X11 though. And there are ports on this that are visible to the world (I can ssh to it on default port) :)
| Code: | vendor_id : CyrixInstead
cpu family : 5
model : 9
model name : Unknown
stepping : 1
cpu MHz : 266.671
|
_________________ Core-i7-2700K@4.1GHz/8GB RAM/180GB SSD/Intel HD3000 graphics
What the heck am I advocating? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
piwacet Guru

Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 484
|
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:09 am Post subject: |
|
|
| I ran Gentoo for years on a 450 mHz PIII. It had a bit more RAM than yours though. The initial install is the hardest part... once you get to the point of having an x-server, you can just run all those emerges and updates in the background while you do other stuff. I suspect the hardest part will be the RAM, as many compiles these days take more RAM. If you can find a way to increase the RAM, that would be good. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
BoneKracker Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.
|
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
We should have a "least bogomips" contest.  _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
woddfellow2 n00b


Joined: 01 Dec 2009 Posts: 20 Location: United States
|
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
When I used Gentoo from December 2009 to April 2010, it was on a box with a single-core 1.15 GHz AMD Athlon and 512 MB of RAM.
My current Gentoo box (my other boxes run Arch (Parabola) and Slackware) has a 2.3 GHz single-core AMD Sempron and 3 GB of RAM. Compilation is not too slow there. _________________ 1-Crawl 2-Cnfg 3-ATF 4-Exit ? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
danomac l33t


Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Posts: 810 Location: Vancouver, BC
|
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I ran it on my Pentium MMX 233 with 8 MB RAM for a firewall. It also had a huge disk - 200 MB. Actually, I think it had 3 of those, one was for logs. I used it as a router.
Sadly that box died in 2007. It had a long life. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
eccerr0r Advocate

Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 2998 Location: USA
|
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Technically the 266MHz GX1 isn't *that* old but it's still pitifully slow.
My AthlonXP 2200+ (both after running a few times to make sure it's cached)
| Code: | $ time emerge >/dev/null
real 0m1.194s
user 0m1.090s
sys 0m0.080s
|
The old pitiful GX1-266:
| Code: | # time emerge > /dev/null
real 0m35.485s
user 0m33.361s
sys 0m1.257s
|
Yes, this is just bringing up the usage information for 'emerge'. My Core2duo is less than a half second with all the python cached.
I only use this machine because it's probably my lowest power x86 machine that I don't care about. I think my netbook is close but I'd rather that be a portable.
And if people care, you can say hi to the GX1 on #hp48 on efnet :) _________________ Core-i7-2700K@4.1GHz/8GB RAM/180GB SSD/Intel HD3000 graphics
What the heck am I advocating? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
tylerwylie Guru

Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 455 Location: /US/Illinois/Champaign
|
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I've installed on a Pentium 3 box before but used a P4 box with DistCC to assist with some of the heavy lifting. This was back when Gentoo was pretty good, ~2004-2005. _________________ "Government is to society, what rape is to lovemaking" |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|