Tax The Rich

mcgruff · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 137

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6ZsXrzF8Cc&feature=youtu.be
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1498 Location: U.S.A.

Nice myth, except it's completely at odds with the facts. Over the past century, government spending in the U.S. has risen steadily from 7% of GDP to 40% of GDP (the main exception being during WWII, when Americans gave up everything they had (right down to the point of collecting the tin foil wrappers from chewing gum) to come bail your sorry asses out).

"Oh, noes! The Nation is falling! Gubbamint don't have enough monies to spend because the rich don't wanna hand over half of what dey earn!!" What a load of Orwellian propaganda bullshit. Government has more money to spend than it ever has, and far more than it needs.

The problem is not that taxes need to be raised. The problem is that the government spends too much and wastes money hand over fist. Meanwhile, it's like a 60-pound leach hanging off the neck of the economy.

The argument that the rich aren't paying their fair share is nothing but populist demagoguery, calculated to lure the ignorant masses into not only allowing, but stampeding to support, tax hikes.

Wake up and smell the Big Brother, idiots. Oh, and speaking of which, we have a new law as of today that "Black Boxes" meeting a host of new law enforcement, national security, and other Big Brother requirements must be in all new cars starting next year. We've had black boxes, useful in reconstructing the last minute or so before a crash, for a long time, but now they're going to be useful in determining anyone's present whereabouts, where they've been for the past year or more, and will be remotely accessible (only if necessary, of course :roll:

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big dave · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:23 am Post subject:

i like how the vid says one of the major problems is that the politicians have been bought.

i'm glad we're listening to the guy whose campaign raised and spent well over a billion dollars on his election.

dmitchell · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:06 am Post subject:

Vile. And these are the same people educating your children (in California).
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wswartzendruber · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:38 am Post subject:

I'm waiting for Jefferson State to re-emerge.

pjp · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:45 am Post subject:

Take everything away from the rich, and still won't be enough. And you just have to change the definition of rich. Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Muso · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:23 am Post subject:

Go Galt.

Refuse to participate, let the state crumble.
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NotQuiteSane · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:32 am Post subject:

BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1498 Location: U.S.A.

pjp · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject:

Jefferson State? Is that excessive debt and slave labor?

And to get the ball rolling, it is no longer liberal or progressive. They are Royalists! Jefferson later associated Hamilton and the Federalists with "Royalism," and said the "Hamiltonians were panting after ... crowns, coronets and mitres."
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wswartzendruber · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject:

Jefferson State was a move to separate southern Oregon and northern California into its own state.

Old School · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:54 pm Post subject:

Never be allowed to happen.

big dave · Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject:

how much bullshit is the video?

http://taxfoundation.org/article/us-federal-individual-income-tax-rates-history-1913-2011-nominal-and-inflation-adjusted-brackets or http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Historical_Mariginal_Tax_Rate_for_Highest_and_Lowest_Income_Earners.jpg

inflation adjusted, taxes were only 7% for the superwealthy pre-WWI. taxes shot up to 77% during WWI, and slowly dropped to 25% by 1925. they rose again until 1944 when they were 94%. they dropped in the 60s and then again in the 80s.

this is just federal taxes. state taxes typically eat 10% more. currently, you can deduct some state taxes against your income for purposes federal taxes, but democrats have proposed eliminating that (effectively raising everyone's tax rate up to 10% more).

the government has already proven that everything it touches turns to shit. now mcgruff wants the government to take 80% of everyone's income and turn that into shit too.

BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1498 Location: U.S.A.

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Eat The Rich
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pjp · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:13 am Post subject:

mcgruff · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 137

Anyone for social justice...?
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sikpuppy · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:04 am Post subject:

NotQuiteSane · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:10 am Post subject:

wswartzendruber · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:22 am Post subject:

They also quit blocking what would become I-5 with their guns and went home.

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Old School · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:18 pm Post subject:

dmitchell · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject:

Old School · Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: