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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:16 am    Post subject: Prohibition doesn't work (again we are reminded of it) Reply with quote

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/victoria-police-statistics-reveal-huge-spike-in-assaults-and-drug-crime/story-fnat79vb-1226527284565

Drugs have to be legal and taxed. The money raised from drugs should be used to help people with rehabilitation.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

everybody with half a brain knows that. But drugs are much more lucrative if they are illeagal. And some of the profit goes into the pockets of those who keep them that way.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The state needs to disintegrate, all else is rubbish.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The state needs to disintegrate, all else is rubbish.


because Somali works so well, huh?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All hail Kim Jong Un!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The state needs to disintegrate, all else is rubbish.
The question is, which country's currency is safest from our collapse. I've been hording money, and I'm thinking it might be time to divest myself of a majority of Franklins.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Prohibition doesn't work (again we are reminded of it) Reply with quote

petrjanda wrote:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/victoria-police-statistics-reveal-huge-spike-in-assaults-and-drug-crime/story-fnat79vb-1226527284565

Drugs have to be legal and taxed. The money raised from drugs should be used to help people with rehabilitation.


Taxation will only lead to stagnation in the drug market and increase the price for consumers. Drugs should be legalized so drug kingpins will become billionaires and donate to help the poors.

I watched a presentation of this on tv yesterday:
http://www.worldcrunch.com/world-affairs/when-the-king-of-cocaine-built-the-general-motors-of-drug-trafficking/trafficking-drug-kingpin-roberto-suarez/c1s10252/#.ULieZc9sE5A

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At its peak, Suárez Gómez’s Bolivian operation brought in an estimated $400 million a year. The kingpin was so well known at the time that U.S. film director Brian De Palma is believed to have used him as the inspiration for one of the characters in his film “Scarface,” which starred Al Pacino. And yet years later, when Suárez Gómez’s family asked about the fortune he presumably left behind, they were told there was no money.
“The money was spent. It never accumulated in checking accounts or in banks. It was redistributed among the poor communities in western Bolivia, like my father wanted,” says Gary, recalling how Suárez Gómez helped develop areas of the jungle by financing the construction of hospitals and housing developments, and installing drinking water and electricity.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expect to be left alone if I chose to put whatever drug into my bloodstream, but I can't bring myself to support full legalization, a.k.a commercialization.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
Muso wrote:
The state needs to disintegrate, all else is rubbish.


because Somali works so well, huh?

Then quit bitching about corrupt drug policies. After all it is the State which legislates, enforces, and convicts.

You complain about over reaching powers over individuals, yet are more than willing to give the fuckers even more power and control over your life.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You complain about over reaching powers over individuals, yet are more than willing to give the fuckers even more power and control over your life.

It's Berlin Wall Withdrawal Syndrome. Same thing happened shortly following the division of Germany after WWII.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
Muso wrote:
The state needs to disintegrate, all else is rubbish.


because Somali works so well, huh?

Then quit bitching about corrupt drug policies. After all it is the State which legislates, enforces, and convicts.

You complain about over reaching powers over individuals, yet are more than willing to give the fuckers even more power and control over your life.


oh wow - from 'hey, prohibition is a bad idea' jumping straight to 'government is a bad idea'. Bold move, really.

Stop bitching and move to Somalia.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sikpuppy wrote:
Old School wrote:
You complain about over reaching powers over individuals, yet are more than willing to give the fuckers even more power and control over your life.

It's Berlin Wall Withdrawal Syndrome. Same thing happened shortly following the division of Germany after WWII.


you can kiss my fat ass. Really. I invite you to. But with lots of feeling.

Clean up your own mess first.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you can kiss my fat ass. Really. I invite you to. But with lots of feeling.
Clean up your own mess first.

No. And what mess? There is no mess here. :-)
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sikpuppy wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
you can kiss my fat ass. Really. I invite you to. But with lots of feeling.
Clean up your own mess first.

No. And what mess? There is no mess here. :-)


Aboriginees got their land back?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjp wrote:
Muso wrote:
The state needs to disintegrate, all else is rubbish.
The question is, which country's currency is safest from our collapse. I've been hording money, and I'm thinking it might be time to divest myself of a majority of Franklins.

One that has least connections to america.

At the end of the day money is nothing but trust. Trust that someone is going to exchange a valuable good for a worthless piece of paper.
If you don't trust the paper, get goods.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Aboriginees got their land back?

The smart ones did, yes.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
Old School wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
Muso wrote:
The state needs to disintegrate, all else is rubbish.


because Somali works so well, huh?

Then quit bitching about corrupt drug policies. After all it is the State which legislates, enforces, and convicts.

You complain about over reaching powers over individuals, yet are more than willing to give the fuckers even more power and control over your life.


oh wow - from 'hey, prohibition is a bad idea' jumping straight to 'government is a bad idea'. Bold move, really.

Stop bitching and move to Somalia.

wow.

You tell me to move to Somalia, yet let some Aussie the chance to kiss your ass with feeling.

I'm hurt.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wow.

You tell me to move to Somalia, yet let some Aussie the chance to kiss your ass with feeling.

I'm hurt.

Well, Hitler was an Australian.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sikpuppy wrote:
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wow.

You tell me to move to Somalia, yet let some Aussie the chance to kiss your ass with feeling.

I'm hurt.

Well, Hitler was an Australian.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b wrote:
sikpuppy wrote:
Old School wrote:
You complain about over reaching powers over individuals, yet are more than willing to give the fuckers even more power and control over your life.

It's Berlin Wall Withdrawal Syndrome. Same thing happened shortly following the division of Germany after WWII.


you can kiss my fat ass. Really. I invite you to. But with lots of feeling.

Here's energyman76b working out with his personal trainer. :P
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sikpuppy wrote:
Prenj wrote:
Aboriginees got their land back?

The smart ones did, yes.

So you're saying aboriginees are stupid?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prenj wrote:
sikpuppy wrote:
Prenj wrote:
Aboriginees got their land back?

The smart ones did, yes.

So you're saying aboriginees are stupid?

No.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sikpuppy wrote:
Prenj wrote:
sikpuppy wrote:
Prenj wrote:
Aboriginees got their land back?

The smart ones did, yes.

So you're saying aboriginees are stupid?

No.


Ok then. :lol:
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sikpuppy wrote:
energyman76b wrote:
you can kiss my fat ass. Really. I invite you to. But with lots of feeling.
Clean up your own mess first.

No. And what mess? There is no mess here. :-)


apart from censoring and related stuff....
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr.Willy wrote:
pjp wrote:
Muso wrote:
The state needs to disintegrate, all else is rubbish.
The question is, which country's currency is safest from our collapse. I've been hording money, and I'm thinking it might be time to divest myself of a majority of Franklins.

One that has least connections to america.

At the end of the day money is nothing but trust. Trust that someone is going to exchange a valuable good for a worthless piece of paper.
If you don't trust the paper, get goods.
Hmm, goods. That might be better. Because if the US economy collapses, I'm not sure very many will survive unscathed. Not to mention the likelihood of readily available access to and exchanging foreign currency.
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