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padoor Advocate


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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:41 pm Post subject: no more user changeable cpu from intel??? |
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http://www.zdnet.com/intel-preparing-to-put-an-end-to-user-replaceable-cpus-7000008024/?s_cid=e539
| Quote: | Intel 'preparing' to put an end to user-replaceable CPUs
Summary: Reports suggest that Intel is preparing to kill off PC upgrades by adopting the BGA rather than an LGA package for its upcoming Broadwell architecture processors. This is the beginning of the end for the desktop PC.
By Adrian Kingsley-Hughes for Hardware 2.0 | November 28, 2012 -- 11:55 GMT (19:55 SGT)
Yesterday, a report emerged claiming that Intel is planning to release its upcoming 14-nanometer Broadwell architecture processors as a ball grid array (BGA) rather than an land grid array (LGA) package.
This would have several widespread implications, including bringing to an end to processor (CPU) upgrades. |
then amd will come up  _________________ reach out a little bit more to catch it (DON'T BELIEVE the advocate part under my user name) |
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MustrumR n00b

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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Intel have been changing their sockets so often so it doesn't matter unless you want to upgrade CPU every few months. |
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Mardok45 n00b

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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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This is a good thing. PC's have reached a point where fairly cheap rigs can play games like Crysis, and parts last for a pretty long time.
Enthusiasts and modders can find something else to beat up on. |
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Computers have become perishable items, with a shelf-life of about 2 years, maybe 3years. So, I don't really care if I have a CRU CPU. I'd rather have one of those cheap laptops, use them for about 2years and then throw away. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Disposable consumption is a sad state of civilization. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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dmitchell Veteran


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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Disposable consumption is excellent. _________________ Your argument is invalid. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Wow. I wouldn't have guessed you to be in favor of waste. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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padoor Advocate


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:41 am Post subject: |
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computers becoming disposable the hardware repairs people will have no job in future.
the OEM will have more control on the customers expenses on services
even the warrantee guarantee can also vanish sometimes soon.
we may have to buy things as is where is conditions sooner  _________________ reach out a little bit more to catch it (DON'T BELIEVE the advocate part under my user name) |
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dmitchell Veteran


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | Wow. I wouldn't have guessed you to be in favor of waste. |
If it's so cheap you can afford to use it and throw it away, then it isn't waste: it's abundance. I'm in favor of abundance. _________________ Your argument is invalid. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:51 am Post subject: |
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That is just amazing. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:53 am Post subject: |
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And computers are more than abundant. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:00 am Post subject: |
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The resources to make them are not unlimited.
We have a very limited supply of giant redwoods, but allowed to, the lumber industry would process all of them and move on to something else afterward. "Abundance" isn't a concern. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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dmitchell Veteran


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | That is just amazing. |
For most of human history, life's essentials were so scarce that if you wasted them, you starved. You probably starved anyway. Unsurprisingly, there was very little waste. You might look back on those times and think about the moral virtue of thrift. I look back on those times and think, "Life sure did suck. Disposable consumption is great!" _________________ Your argument is invalid. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:02 am Post subject: |
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And when scarcity arrives, some will look back and think how foolish and ignorant some of us were. Actually, they'll probably not be that selective. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:27 am Post subject: |
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If you're talking about rare-earth metals/minerals, then there's no reason to not reuse/recycle them. Most computer parts are now getting recycled for these anyway. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Local news covered a story about how many people had multiple old devices "stuck" at home. Certainly some recycling is going on, but I don't know how much. Especially given the "it is abundant, don't worry, be happy" attitude. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | dmitchell wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | That is just amazing. | For most of human history, life's essentials were so scarce that if you wasted them, you starved. You probably starved anyway. Unsurprisingly, there was very little waste. You might look back on those times and think about the moral virtue of thrift. I look back on those times and think, "Life sure did suck. Disposable consumption is great!" | And when scarcity arrives, some will look back and think how foolish and ignorant some of us were. Actually, they'll probably not be that selective. |
I agree with you that dmitchell is foolish and ignorant. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
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dmitchell Veteran


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | And when scarcity arrives, some will look back and think how foolish and ignorant some of us were. Actually, they'll probably not be that selective. |
If things become scarce, prices rise and people economize. If a price is low, then the good is abundant. _________________ Your argument is invalid. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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When it is scarce is too late. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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for copper it is too late already.... _________________
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Clad in Sky l33t


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in two minds about this.
On the one hand, this could lead to more waste.
On the other, I've never replaced a CPU on any of my computers. Memory, graphics card, HDD etc. are more important for me. But then, that's just me. _________________ Kali Ma
Now it's autumn of the aeons
Dance with your sword
Now it's time for the harvest |
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dmitchell Veteran


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | When it is scarce is too late. |
Then you should start buying it up now. Buy low, sell high. And guess what that will do? Prices will start rising now before it's too late. That's what entrepreneurs do. _________________ Your argument is invalid. |
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erm67 Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Clad in Sky wrote: |
On the other, I've never replaced a CPU on any of my computers. Memory, graphics card, HDD etc. are more important for me. But then, that's just me. |
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CPU sockets do change quicker than CPU models (almost) , it is currently impossible to upgrade a CPU after some time ... _________________ Truck!!
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Clad in Sky l33t


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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True. I considered getting a new CPU. Couldn't find one for AM2+ socket, though. And that's AMD, who're changing less often compared to Intel. _________________ Kali Ma
Now it's autumn of the aeons
Dance with your sword
Now it's time for the harvest |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| dmitchell wrote: | | Then you should start buying it up now. Buy low, sell high. And guess what that will do? Prices will start rising now before it's too late. That's what entrepreneurs do. | Simply amazing. If that's what goes along with Government-without-government Anarchy, then you lost me as a possible supporter. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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