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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Germany to ban sex with animals as bestiality rises Reply with quote

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Germany plans to outlaw Zoophilia, a practice of humans having sex with animals (bestiality), despite protests from groups promoting the practice.

100,000 Zoophiles in Germany

The German Zoophilia group Zeta (Zoophiles committed to tolerance and enlightenment) opposes the proposed amendment.

Zeta chairman Michael Kiok, 52, who says he is "emotionally and sexually" attracted to his dog, Cessie, told the Taz: "I guess we are more than 100,000 zoophiles in Germany, "but added many are in hiding.

"For some, their pet is a beloved life partner, with whom they have sex. For the other, the animal is sexual partners, especially. Very important: With people who torture animals, zoophiles have nothing to do with.

An animal can show exactly what it wants and what it does not want. And it shows that whatsoever. When I look at my dog, I know immediately what is going on. Animals are much easier to understand than, say, women.

Animals are not children. Adult animals have an adult sexuality, which they want to live. Animals live in the here and now. If they are doing well and they have fun, they get no later psychological problems."


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/408843/20121127/animal-sex-ban-germany-bestiality-zoophilia-law.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what does the dog say in this matter?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

likewhoa wrote:
what does the dog say in this matter?


Yes, this id dog! wrote:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh cool, more religiously motivated laws, because we need more of them.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legally determining consent seems to be impossible.

And while I don't agree, some who oppose gay marriage will retort with What's next, marrying your dog? Don't give them ammunition or more motivation.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two World Wars and one World Cup...and now this. Those poor sausage munching bastards. I wonder what story they give at the local ER for a Shih Tzu wedged on their wee-wee.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shih Tzu fell on their wee wee, while they were walking down the road?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shih Tzu fell on their wee wee, while they were walking down the road?

Yes. As in why did the Shih Tzu cross the road? Because it was wedged on a Jerry's cock.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the cited reasons are alleged animal bordellos on the rise :lol: :lol:

Wiki has some good resources on the case and links to statements of all involved parties.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilie#Wiedereinf.C3.BChrung_als_Straftatbestand_in_Deutschland

The only way this will go through is when only people are involved in the decision that believe zoophilia to be "self-evidently wrong".
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the only source mentioning a zoophile bordello was a danish newspaper distributed for free on the streets, despite some investigations no proof has been found that something like that exists.

Apparently only UK and North Ireland + some US states have laws that specifically target zoophilia ...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kill and eat animals... not... :twisted:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what a woman and her dog do is between them and nobody should care.

A man and a bitch on the other hand is animal abuse - and we have laws covering that already.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you make a distinction?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why do you make a distinction?


a male dog humping a woman obviously wants to have sex. Or at least sexual gratification. Easy. A dog 'used' in dildogging... is a different problem partly covered by the following too. But at least it has to have an erection which might be interpreted as a certain signt of its consent.
A bitch on the other hand has no way to show beyond doubt that it wants to be penetrated by a human male. Dog-fuckers might claim that it acts like it wants it - or at least does not fight it. But they don't recognize the mental state of the dog as an animal in a subordinate, devote position. It does not fight back or resist, because its position does not allow it. So without a sign beyond doubt you have to assume that the animal was forced, either by physical force or its position in the owner-dog relationship. And force = rape.

So willing male dog fucking a woman: the animal wants it. The woman wants it too. Their problem as long as they don't do it in public.
A man fucking a bitch (or butt fucking a male dog): animal abuse, already covered by existing laws.

Either way, no new laws needed.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens when you fuck an orangoutang?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you've got that backwards. Orangutan fucks you!


@energyman76b: Interesting that you have laws against it but it is portrayed otherwise.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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pjp wrote:
Why do you make a distinction?


a male dog humping a woman obviously wants to have sex. Or at least sexual gratification. Easy. A dog 'used' in dildogging... is a different problem partly covered by the following too. But at least it has to have an erection which might be interpreted as a certain signt of its consent.
A bitch on the other hand has no way to show beyond doubt that it wants to be penetrated by a human male. Dog-fuckers might claim that it acts like it wants it - or at least does not fight it. But they don't recognize the mental state of the dog as an animal in a subordinate, devote position. It does not fight back or resist, because its position does not allow it. So without a sign beyond doubt you have to assume that the animal was forced, either by physical force or its position in the owner-dog relationship. And force = rape.

So willing male dog fucking a woman: the animal wants it. The woman wants it too. Their problem as long as they don't do it in public.
A man fucking a bitch (or butt fucking a male dog): animal abuse, already covered by existing laws.

Either way, no new laws needed.

This is an epic post. :lol:
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

energyman76b has a strong point there, no doubt.

i find my mice really cute.. they would probably explode if i would try anything. hehe.

i just cannot understand the state of mind of people who would even get the idea of having sex with animals. something really weird must be in their water supply.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think you've got that backwards. Orangutan fucks you!


@energyman76b: Interesting that you have laws against it but it is portrayed otherwise.


no, we have laws against animal abuse. Not zoophilia.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, OK. I guess the new laws would clarify it as animal abuse.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There may be good reasons for the ages-old prohibition of bestiality. For example, that's how HIV got into humans: some Belgian fucking a monkey in the Congo.
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There may be good reasons for the ages-old prohibition of bestiality. For example, that's how HIV got into humans: some Belgian fucking a monkey in the Congo.


no, some negro ate raw monkey after hunting it down, then fucked some belgian in the Congo.
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What happens when you fuck an orangoutang?


depends - if you are a redhead....
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow 100,000 interested in animal sex.! 8O
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wow 100,000 interested in animal sex.! 8O

95,000 of which were Austrians looking for bestiality photos to tack up on the walls of their basement bondage laboratories.
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